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Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by acherion »

Great work! I look forward to using this.

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet (I came across this post 100+ comments later), but one thing I miss terribly after leaving AirMail was the ability to write markdown in email. I absolutely loved the split-pane window when writing an email, and see it update in real-time as I write my markdown'ed email.

I am on the web-client for Gmail for now, and although there are browser plugins for MD, they feel quite clunky to use. It would be great if you could consider MD support in composing emails!

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by samatman »

sedatk wrote: post #89
jonathanberger wrote: post #86

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Congrats on an amazing launch! You might though consider a new name before going to the App Store? Telling someone who doesn't read HN about your app would be very difficult because "mime" and "stream" aren't words people would expect next to each other. "Mime" is also a pretty uncommon word. Getting the early adopter crowd now who understand the name is important but this app has exciting potential I think for an au…

Thunderbirds aren't common in the wild either.

Well, not lately, but there were plenty on the road when I was a lad.

I do think the median user would be nonplussed by a name like Mimestream. One struggles to form a mental image of a stream of mimes, and I assure you that knowing that something called MIME exists is uncommon.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by njhaveri »

acherion wrote: post #131

Great work! I look forward to using this. Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet (I came across this post 100+ comments later), but one thing I miss terribly after leaving AirMail was the ability to write markdown in email. I absolutely loved the split-pane window when writing an email, and see it update in real-time as I write my markdown'ed email. I am on the web-client for Gmail for now, and altho…

Markdown support has been a major theme from the feedback I've gotten today by email and here. In addition, I find myself personally wanting it all the time, at least so I can insert code blocks. I definitely plan to add this in the not-too-distant future!

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by dwrodri »

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm looking to tech myself iOS app development, and I'm wondering what y'all think of SwiftUI. Generally, I am quite the fan of iOS's visual defaults and I have prior experience doing backend work, but I'm quite unfamiliar with UI design.

After watching WWDC2020 this spring, I'm pretty convinced that Apple has set itself up with what looks like one of the cleanest IDEs for building user-facing ML applications and I'd like to give it a try.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by njhaveri »

antaviana wrote: post #74
njhaveri wrote: post #31

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Thanks! So, I don't know exactly what the pricing model will be yet, but I definitely hear your feedback on this topic, and I'm looking at pretty much every option :) My intention is to build a sustainable long-term business, and deliver a continuous/regular stream of updates (e.g. see the Release Notes at https://mimestream.com/releases ), so the pricing model will need to support that goal.

IMHO, if you are looking for long-term business, you need to go the subscription-only route. Probably $19/year. Don't offer permanent licenses, it will add complexity to purchase and support. You do not want a users with a product of yours with a vulnerability they are not entitled to update. A subscription-only model will allow you to focus on only the last build which everyone will be entitled to download, greatly…

Thanks for the feedback here, I really appreciate it! You make many solid points here, and some are totally new points I had not considered before.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by allenu »

dwrodri wrote: post #136

I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I'm looking to tech myself iOS app development, and I'm wondering what y'all think of SwiftUI. Generally, I am quite the fan of iOS's visual defaults and I have prior experience doing backend work, but I'm quite unfamiliar with UI design. After watching WWDC2020 this spring, I'm pretty convinced that Apple has set itself up with what looks like one of the clean…

I'm have about ten years experience with macOS and iOS development. I have not yet taken the plunge to do SwiftUI development exclusively, but from what I've seen, it's the future of UI development on iOS and macOS. If you're interested in iOS development, definitely learn it.

It uses a declarative language to describe the UI, so I think it should be much easier to learn than the previous imperative paradigm.

For the most part, you can get away with the standard "visual defaults" as you call them on the platform. You can easily create a complete app without having to customize any UI, although it obviously adds to the look and feel if you do.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Post by monadic2 »

dvtrn wrote: post #63
robenkleene wrote: post #4

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This is a great point: "There are no intermediary servers with access to your account or copies of your messages." A number of popular email clients use intermediary servers and that's a complete deal breaker for me. I'd argue that should be a deal breaker for almost anyone. I'm not a security expert, but as far as I can tell, for most people the single biggest security vulnerability is an attacker gaining access to…

I never quite understood what the value add was for email-client developers to use intermediary servers. Is it to gather usage telemetry or something else?

Indexing and search can be sophisticated & available before downloading any messages; you can ensure completion of complex pop and imap operation (eg working with messages "tagged" by gmail); just a few benefits.

Note, this is in no way an endorsement of middle manning email management and facading as a client.

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