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Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Trying this now, but I'm stuck on authentication. My default browser is Firefox, but I have Firefox specifically configured to block access to Gmail. It would be great if I could choose the browser to use for login, or at least be able to copy the URL so I can put into Chrome.

In the meantime I'll change my default browser for a moment and see how it goes.

Edit: It worked switching default browsers.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

This looks great!! It's beautiful and lightening fast. I would definitely pay for this. Except for one thing.

It doesn't seem to support priority inbox, which is critical to my workflow. My currently gmail inbox looks like this:

in:inbox is:important is:unread

in:inbox -l:important -is:updates -is:promotions -is:social

in:inbox -l:important (is:updates OR is:social)

in:inbox -l:important is:promotions

in:inbox is:important is:read

The only reason it's like that is because gmail limits you to five sections. Ideally I would split up updates and social.

The first section is my triage section, and the only one whose unread count I care about. The rest I try to triage by skimming once a day and cleaning once a week.

Then the last section is my "todo" section, things I have to respond to that will take more than a minute.

So if I could customize the interface with the searches I want and in the order I want, that would be ideal. And then have a view where I can select how many messages from each section are visible at once (like in Gmail's multiple inbox view).

If I could do that, I could easily see myself paying $100 for that, especially if it has a companion ipad/iphone app.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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post #2

Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail. Mimestream is written in Swift, and uses AppKit+SwiftUI for a clean, stock appearance. It's designed to be fast, lightweight, and use a minimal amount of disk space. Mimestream's advantages over using the Gmail web interface includes…

This looks great!! It's beautiful and lightening fast. I would definitely pay for this. Except for one thing. It doesn't seem to support priority inbox, which is critical to my workflow. My currently gmail inbox looks like this: in:inbox is:important is:unread in:inbox -l:important -is:updates -is:promotions -is:social in:inbox -l:important (is:updates OR is:social) in:inbox -l:important is:promotions in:inbox is:imp…

Great feedback – I've gotten this request a lot today. It's been something I've always planned on doing, but based on the popularity of this request, this is a lot higher up on the list now.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

#125

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This is fantastic, please support Google Advanced Protection as I cannot add my account as a result of it being enabled on my account. "Advanced Protection prevented your Google Account from signing in. This security feature stops most non-Google apps and services from accessing your data to keep your account protected."

> To prevent unauthorized access, Advanced Protection only allows Google apps and verified third-party apps to access your Google Account data, and only with your permission. - https://landing.google.com/advancedprotection/ I didn't realise until now that third-party apps could work with Advanced Protection.

I didn't either. I'll be looking into this. Thanks!

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

#126
Looks like exactly what I’ve been looking for. I tried a bunch of these - AirMail was good but buggy. Superhuman is good but expensive.

The only snag here is that I haven’t updated to Catalina.

Will be trying this out when I finally upgrade (possibly directly To Big Sur).

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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post #47

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Thanks for the prompt reply. Will Mimestream-local snooze necessitate introducing an intermediate server to track across platforms, or will you use something like iCloud sync to keep track?

Definitely no intermediary server with access to your account. This idea would be to use iCloud to sync a set of snoozed server IDs, and only "hide" those messages from within the app, leaving those messages actually in the inbox on the server. No message data going into iCloud, either.

The way that other platforms have done it is by using custom labels - so the messages just get labeled as "snoozed until tomorrow", and at 9am the client simply grabs all those and moves them back to inbox and deletes the label. That's how Mailbox did it, for example.

Once Snooze is added, I'll happily buy this app for $20+ - I've been waiting for something like this since Inbox and Mailbox were killed off.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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IMHO, if you are looking for long-term business, you need to go the subscription-only route. Probably $19/year. Don't offer permanent licenses, it will add complexity to purchase and support. You do not want a users with a product of yours with a vulnerability they are not entitled to update. A subscription-only model will allow you to focus on only the last build which everyone will be entitled to download, greatly…

I think they can do a pricing model similar to what Sketch uses, but given it is an email client, I am not entirely sure of that myself (though still worth exploring). For those unfamiliar, with Sketch, you basically have a yearly subscription and you continue receiving regular updates while you are subbed. Once your subscription expires, you get to keep the version you paid for at the beginning of your subscription…

This is very similar to Intellij's perpetual fallback license. When you unsub, you are frozen on that point release.

I spent a while with a professional version until the community edition had some features that convinced me to move over.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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This looks great!! It's beautiful and lightening fast. I would definitely pay for this. Except for one thing. It doesn't seem to support priority inbox, which is critical to my workflow. My currently gmail inbox looks like this: in:inbox is:important is:unread in:inbox -l:important -is:updates -is:promotions -is:social in:inbox -l:important (is:updates OR is:social) in:inbox -l:important is:promotions in:inbox is:imp…

Great feedback – I've gotten this request a lot today. It's been something I've always planned on doing, but based on the popularity of this request, this is a lot higher up on the list now.

Awesome! If you need more feedback or want to actually watch me work in gmail, I'm happy to do a screen share. My email is in my profile, hit me up if you're interested.

Re: Show HN: Mimestream, a native macOS email client for Gmail

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post #60

The simplicity reminds me of Sparrow for Mac [1]. One of the best email apps ever made! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparrow_(email_client)

When I was still on Gmail in 2012 or so (?) I really really loved that app! Actually, I’d easily pay $25 or even more for a similar app, for Fastmail.

Mailmate at https://freron.com/ is fantastic. My only gripe is that it is Mac-only, so I can't use it on my work desktop. (linux)
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