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Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

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I think it is more likely that the change is in you. It has been a stressful year and you may be keeping score more than you did in the past. When things are hard we try to find fault in others, which is a painfully easy thing to do.

It might help to see these not as opportunities to be frustrated but as opportunities to be gracious and forgiving. It’s like seeing money fall out of a stranger’s pocket: it can be an opportunity to steal or an opportunity to help.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

#13
I don't know that its increased. I rather think that with the pandemic, and WFH and everything else, weaknesses in the process -- and whole new processes are being exposed.

- People are being challenged

- Situations are rapidly changing course, and people have to adapt quickly.

- People are trying to do their jobs while worrying about their finances, or how they're going to home school their kids, or daycare, or them or their spouses losing their job.

It's fine, everyone will adapt to the new normal, whatever that ends up looking like.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

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I worry often that my perception of this is biased because I'm young and "this has always happened" but I fully agree with you, and it's across the spectrum of importance. Hire a contractor to power wash part of a house, and they simply _did not do half the work._ Not a matter of a half-assed job, simply was not even done. When called back, they proceeded to skimp in almost the same way, except when confronted over t…

"I feel like if I was this bad at my job I'd be fired in an instant..." Yes! I look at these other jobs and think how great it would be to work in a position that had no accountability.

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Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

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post #7

I worry often that my perception of this is biased because I'm young and "this has always happened" but I fully agree with you, and it's across the spectrum of importance. Hire a contractor to power wash part of a house, and they simply _did not do half the work._ Not a matter of a half-assed job, simply was not even done. When called back, they proceeded to skimp in almost the same way, except when confronted over t…

"I feel like if I was this bad at my job I'd be fired in an instant..." Yes! I look at these other jobs and think how great it would be to work in a position that had no accountability.

I think that’s probably impostor syndrome working. My bet is that a lot of people could be significantly worse at their jobs without the system detecting it

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

#16
Well it is basically the pandemic, which put stress on lots of different level. Both within and outside of their Job.

And the other factor in the modern era is that everyone is overworked and / or underpaid. The motivation to do something properly is gone. I would not be surprised those jobs you mentioned are now doing 2x the workload compare to 20 to 30 years ago while earning a quality of life ( Even Money over inflation may not be a clear indicator ) that is lower than what it was 20 - 30 years ago. Comparatively Speaking.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

#17
None of this sounds any different from thirty years ago. And the interaction with law enforcement sounds like high competency it’s just that high competency doesn’t look like what you thought it did.

Generally I find greater competency on average. I just accept that a person can be competent at doing something I don’t like.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

#19

I think it is more likely that the change is in you. It has been a stressful year and you may be keeping score more than you did in the past. When things are hard we try to find fault in others, which is a painfully easy thing to do. It might help to see these not as opportunities to be frustrated but as opportunities to be gracious and forgiving. It’s like seeing money fall out of a stranger’s pocket: it can be an o…

I don't think I've changed. I'm pretty forgiving. For example, I could have the other person involved in the legal situation issued a $300 fine, but I'm not reporting it. I also understand people make mistakes, which is why I contacted to officer involved to give him the correct information and ask that he make the correction to the citation. Instead he was complacent and said even if it's wrong he won't change it and we have to go to court. I could file a professional complaint against the officer, but I'm not.

So there's a lot of stuff I could do against people, but I'm not. I'm trying to give people the benefit of doubt or correct their mistake, but they are making it very difficult.

Re: Ask HN: Does anyone else notice increased incompetence?

#20

I worry often that my perception of this is biased because I'm young and "this has always happened" but I fully agree with you, and it's across the spectrum of importance. Hire a contractor to power wash part of a house, and they simply _did not do half the work._ Not a matter of a half-assed job, simply was not even done. When called back, they proceeded to skimp in almost the same way, except when confronted over t…

Well, I could tell you our heat-pump saga from the early 1990s, or our difficulties dealing with painters in 2004.

But the best is probably the contractor drama of several years ago. One plumber left the country and did not return. This would have been fine, except that he left a vent pipe unblocked when he removed the toilet or sink or whatever. Then we had a really cold winter and the rats found their way into the house by that route.

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