Dozens of scientific journals have vanished from the internet
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Re: Dozens of scientific journals have vanished from the internet
#2The article does not discuss sci-hub unfortunately.
list of the 176 vanished is here: https://github.com/njahn82/vanished_journals/blob/master/Dis...
Re: Dozens of scientific journals have vanished from the internet
#3In France we have HAL:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Articles_en_Ligne
"Hyper Articles en Ligne, generally shortened to HAL, is an open archive where authors can deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields."
I work at a university and I know library people and management check carefully that every paper we produce is deposited in HAL.
Also:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_articles_en_ligne
"Depuis le 25 septembre 2018, les dépôts de logiciels sur HAL sont connectés à Software Heritage"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Heritage
For recruiting some french institutions like CNRS will only consider papers deposited in HAL when doing the evaluation.
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#4This sounds like apologia from a big closed publisher (AAAS) explaining why open-access is supposedly bad. See, sometimes open-access journals fold, and when that happens, nobody knows what happens to the articles. But they'd like you to ignore two inconvenient facts: First, that traditional closed publishers effectively lose all articles by default by this metric! And second, that the Internet Archive, itself open-access, was essential to conducting the study in the first place!
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#5Welcome to our new dark-aged ultra-tech future.
Re: Dozens of scientific journals have vanished from the internet
#6The predigital and national solution are laws requiring a a copy to be sent to the national library.
What's the digital, and post-national solution?
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#7This isn’t just a problem with scientific journals, but also niche research/enthusiast journals. When a magazine goes under, and the copyright holder is of a murky/unknown status, still too dangerous to digitize and make available, which is a shame.
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#8The predigital and national solution are laws requiring a a copy to be sent to the national library. What's the digital, and post-national solution?
In the US, the mandatory deposit requirement likely worked pretty well with traditional book/magazine publishers and music labels. Outside of that, I expect a huge amount slipped through the cracks. There's no real enforcement AFAIK and I imagine most who are independently publishing or otherwise working outside of conventional channels don't deposit.
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#9In France we have HAL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_Articles_en_Ligne "Hyper Articles en Ligne, generally shortened to HAL, is an open archive where authors can deposit scholarly documents from all academic fields." I work at a university and I know library people and management check carefully that every paper we produce is deposited in HAL. Also: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper_articles_en_ligne "Depuis…
In Norway any publication needs to be deposited to the national archive by law. That includes scientific journals and in theory even small publications distributed in a private setting if it's a big enough group of people (I'm not sure of the details). Not sure how it works for scientific work published in foreign publications, but I assume it's sent to the national archive as routine.
However, most of the archive is not publicly accessible due to copyright, privacy etc. You can request access to specific content both as a private person and as a researcher.
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#10read an article about waybackmachine , archive.org on hn few days back, will there be a copy on it ?