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Re: Fast Typing: Keyboard Layouts

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Post by Symbiote » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 12:45 PM UTC

meigetsu wrote: post #27

Any thoughts on the ultimate hacking keyboard as an option? https://ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

It doesn't have a function key row, which is annoying when you just want to press F5 10 times, or Ctrl+Shift+F10. It also doesn't have separate arrow keys etc.

Being able to join it together isn't very useful -- if you can type on a split keyboard, why would you want to join it together?

But, it's a decent option that you can simply buy. Many of the better options are sold as DIY kits, or at least require editing a text file and re-flashing the keyboard to change the layout.

There are reviews of some other keyboards here: http://xahlee.info/kbd/ergonomic_keyboards_index.html (and the DIY options under 'DIY').

Re: Fast Typing: Keyboard Layouts

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Post by atemerev » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 6:15 PM UTC

blumomo wrote: post #39

atemerev wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn’t work for me, sold it after two months.

What OS did you use it with? What didn’t work for you?

Ubuntu. My typing/coding speed was still slower after one month, and it felt unnatural. I guess I just have adapted too much to regular keyboards.

Re: Fast Typing: Keyboard Layouts

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Post by blumomo » Mon, Sep 07, 2020, 9:03 PM UTC

atemerev wrote: post #82

blumomo wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What OS did you use it with? What didn’t work for you?

Ubuntu. My typing/coding speed was still slower after one month, and it felt unnatural. I guess I just have adapted too much to regular keyboards.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m really willing to relearn typing as I got too much used to the (awesome) touchpads of macbooks.

Re: Fast Typing: Keyboard Layouts

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Post by JesusFreke » Wed, Sep 09, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

DavidVoid wrote: post #50

It honestly surprises me that the evolution of ergonomic keyboards has been so slow. Sure, we have plenty of split keyboards now, but we don't have any commercially available DataHand-like designs [1]. Watch someone type with a DataHand you'll see that they barely need to move their fingers at all [2]! The best similarly ergonomic designs we have at the moment are a gaming keypad [3] and some DYI projects [4]. [1] ht…

I also recently posted a typing video on the lalboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMhOIgrdeE0

Re: Fast Typing: Keyboard Layouts

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Post by cosmotic » Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #64

cosmotic wrote: post #58

DVORAK has long been debunked. It was a fraudulent study conducted by the US navy. The transition into dvorak will slow you; the constant need to setup your key layout on new computers will slow you, the inability to use other computers quickly will slow you, the inability for others to use computers you've setup will be a problem... https://reason.com/1996/06/01/typing-errors/

That was interesting to read. But does it really apply today? The lost Navy study was made in even pre-cubicle times. And even as a cubicler maybe bring-your-own(-typing)-device could apply? Not to mention work-from-home.

There still hasn't been a study proving dvorak's superiority over qwerty since then so any claims to its efficiency should be met with serious skepticism.

Re: Fast Typing: Keyboard Layouts

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv » Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 11:08 PM UTC

cosmotic wrote: post #85

LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was interesting to read. But does it really apply today? The lost Navy study was made in even pre-cubicle times. And even as a cubicler maybe bring-your-own(-typing)-device could apply? Not to mention work-from-home.

There still hasn't been a study proving dvorak's superiority over qwerty since then so any claims to its efficiency should be met with serious skepticism.

Err, yes. But isn't dvorak obsoleted meanwhile? There are so many others, Colemak, Workman, the list goes on and on. Anyways, my point still stands. Does it matter in a world of working remote, or bring your own device? Why do people prefer comfortable chairs instead of that molded plastic stuff in airports, subways, and similar?