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Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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curryst wrote: post #14
tjchear wrote: post #9

Would I be liable for illegal things I store for others that I know nothing about?

That's a fantastic question, I would love to know that as well. My worrying suspicion is that yes, you are. I've never heard of prosecutors needing to prove knowledge for drug posession charges. Even if storers aren't liable, there's a very high chance you would be arrested and potentially charged, and the charges would later be dropped. Assuming we're talking about a big illegal thing here like child pornography or…

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Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by gruez »

thrownaway954 wrote: post #25

"Airbnb for storage" i knew you were putting in the hn title, so we could all relate, but you have that quote right on your site... are you even allowed to say that? aren't you infringing on Airbnb? i don't know about this... as others have pointed out, i wouldn't want someone sending me something illegal and getting int trouble for storing it. best of luck though.

It's only infringing on airbnb if it confuses the consumer into thinking that the service is offered by airbnb.

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by Eduard »

sails wrote: post #29

Did you make this with bubble.io? Asking because I get the same cloudflare notice when using Firefox tracking protection. > Your browser was unable to load some necessary resources If so, what was the experience like building something a bit more involved? (though I guess this would be possible using one of their templates).

Also, quicklinks in message apps generate bubble stuff

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by ggoo »

ximeng wrote: post #27
octoberfranklin wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What are the plans of the company to deal with possible huge amounts of theft complaints? Probably "theft as a service", like KitSplit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20276631 Voluntary Parting, baby.

As mentioned in response to your other comment KitSplit did appear to address this: https://blog.kitsplit.com/announcing-kitsplit-theft-protecti...

> We’ve built an incredibly effective vetting system that has stopped the vast majority of voluntary parting thieves. As a result voluntary parting is extremely rare, .02% or about 1 in 5000

Is it just me or does this seem not rare at all? If you rent your gear 100 times on kitsplit, there is a 2% chance it will be stolen.

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by derwiki »

ximeng wrote: post #26
octoberfranklin wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uh, lack of insurers willing to backstop this kind of nonsense: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20276631

Interestingly the article linked to states that the company in question started providing relevant insurance in response to this case. So appears what you are saying is not entirely correct. https://blog.kitsplit.com/announcing-kitsplit-theft-protecti...

They self-insured; different than finding an existing insurance house that would cover it.

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by derwiki »

ggoo wrote: post #34
ximeng wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As mentioned in response to your other comment KitSplit did appear to address this: https://blog.kitsplit.com/announcing-kitsplit-theft-protecti...

> We’ve built an incredibly effective vetting system that has stopped the vast majority of voluntary parting thieves. As a result voluntary parting is extremely rare, .02% or about 1 in 5000 Is it just me or does this seem not rare at all? If you rent your gear 100 times on kitsplit, there is a 2% chance it will be stolen.

I think it’s hard to summarize accurately. Often you find a regular renter and they’re very reliable. Most of my rentals were repeat vs first time.

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

willyg123 wrote: post #11

Out of college I worked on the finance side of a self storage investment company (thank god I left after 4 years), so I know the ins and outs of the business. The number one deciding factor for customers is location. Coming in a close second is security . In a far distant third is price. Self storage employees can only access your unit in the event of an emergency, eviction, or a warrant from law enforcement. For sel…

Self-storage businesses are not universal. There are plenty of countries where they don’t really exist at all for individuals (only for corporate customers). There, people who are moving out of their flats and e.g. going abroad for a year and need to stash their stuff, are used to just finding someone with some spare space in his basement or garage. In my experience, people don’t really seem concerned about security; the real valuable stuff might be left with a family member while what goes into the storage space is just the furniture, kitchen stuff, and books.

But since finding a storage place is already a pretty standard part of the local Craigslist/OLX website in these countries, there isn’t much room for a new website to come in and disrupt things.

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by bufferoverflow »

mosselman wrote: post #18

"Hey bro, we aren't storing my drug-lab at my place" "Don't worry man, I know a place." Good luck though. I'd much rather store some furniture for people than have them sleep in my house.

"Hey bro, awesome that you decided to store this expensive item X, I think I'm going to take it for myself, and you can't prove that you stored it or that you yourself didn't take it out".

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by ximeng »

derwiki wrote: post #35
ximeng wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly the article linked to states that the company in question started providing relevant insurance in response to this case. So appears what you are saying is not entirely correct. https://blog.kitsplit.com/announcing-kitsplit-theft-protecti...

They self-insured; different than finding an existing insurance house that would cover it.

Also makes sense as they are in the best position to estimate the risk.

Re: Show HN: StowShare – The Airbnb of Storage

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Post by ximeng »

ggoo wrote: post #34
ximeng wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As mentioned in response to your other comment KitSplit did appear to address this: https://blog.kitsplit.com/announcing-kitsplit-theft-protecti...

> We’ve built an incredibly effective vetting system that has stopped the vast majority of voluntary parting thieves. As a result voluntary parting is extremely rare, .02% or about 1 in 5000 Is it just me or does this seem not rare at all? If you rent your gear 100 times on kitsplit, there is a 2% chance it will be stolen.

If renting a 3,500 USD camera costs 70 USD, the return is 2%, so less voluntary parting rate of 0.02% this is still 1.98%. Or in other words, KitSplit can theoretically cover the risks by taking an additional 1% of the profit earned by the person renting out the camera.
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