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Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by formerly_proven »

brundolf wrote: post #26
hippich wrote: post #21

A few facts about these events: - Based on data collected by from only some polling places, there is a huge discrepancies in results comparing to official ones. Most poling places refused to post results. People, who demanded to post results (as the law requires), were arrested. You can read more about it at belarus2020.org - A lot of journalists left state media. Replacements were brought from Russia's state's propa…

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Possibly heading for a civil war stoked by the country's president in both cases (one trying to paint his trickster self as a man of law and order, one trying to hold on to power after yet-another mock election). Though the parts of the protests we get to see from Belarus look far more civilized than the pictures coming in from the US.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by exo762 »

brundolf wrote: post #26
hippich wrote: post #21

A few facts about these events: - Based on data collected by from only some polling places, there is a huge discrepancies in results comparing to official ones. Most poling places refused to post results. People, who demanded to post results (as the law requires), were arrested. You can read more about it at belarus2020.org - A lot of journalists left state media. Replacements were brought from Russia's state's propa…

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Protests in Belarus are way more civilized than recent protests in both Portland and the rest of USA. The difference is stark, shocking, and puzzling.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by formerly_proven »

some_random wrote: post #29
brundolf wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Please don't compare protests like this, it never looks good.

RoW thinks Portland is borderline civil war anyway. Only a true American could conceive of hundreds of masked, rifle-bearing men marching around and clashing with other groups as a protest.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by [deleted] »

alehul wrote: post #25
mattdeboard wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest that no one has to ask if PandaDoc's leadership is acting recklessly by speaking. Because the alternative is complicity. It is absolutely dangerous to speak, though, you're right about that. The danger exists regardless of whether their leadership speaks. The difference is timing. Yes, it is dangerous. But the party making it unsafe is the fascists. Outrage should be directed there. https://encyclopedia.u…

> It is absolutely dangerous to speak Dangerous for who, though? It was the founders who were supposedly acting against the Belarusian government, and the employees who are paying the price. The founders are safe in San Francisco. My outrage is certainly directed at Lukashenko, but the commenter above us may have a point about whether it was responsible to be acting against a dictator while your employees are subject…

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Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by mattdeboard »

alehul wrote: post #25
mattdeboard wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest that no one has to ask if PandaDoc's leadership is acting recklessly by speaking. Because the alternative is complicity. It is absolutely dangerous to speak, though, you're right about that. The danger exists regardless of whether their leadership speaks. The difference is timing. Yes, it is dangerous. But the party making it unsafe is the fascists. Outrage should be directed there. https://encyclopedia.u…

> It is absolutely dangerous to speak Dangerous for who, though? It was the founders who were supposedly acting against the Belarusian government, and the employees who are paying the price. The founders are safe in San Francisco. My outrage is certainly directed at Lukashenko, but the commenter above us may have a point about whether it was responsible to be acting against a dictator while your employees are subject…

Dangerous for the workers still in Belarus.

And yes, it is tough. It's a very difficult & complicated situation that I am thankful I don't have to experience.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by hippich »

sassypotato wrote: post #30
mattdeboard wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd suggest that no one has to ask if PandaDoc's leadership is acting recklessly by speaking. Because the alternative is complicity. It is absolutely dangerous to speak, though, you're right about that. The danger exists regardless of whether their leadership speaks. The difference is timing. Yes, it is dangerous. But the party making it unsafe is the fascists. Outrage should be directed there. https://encyclopedia.u…

What fascists?

"authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy"

Pretty much spot on except "ultranationalism". The amount of nationalism varies from time to time depending on the current needs. When dictator needs to get something out of Russia, he would either claim nationalism, or goes other way, depending on circumstances.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by bitdizzy »

formerly_proven wrote: post #33
some_random wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't compare protests like this, it never looks good.

RoW thinks Portland is borderline civil war anyway. Only a true American could conceive of hundreds of masked, rifle-bearing men marching around and clashing with other groups as a protest.

What is RoW?

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by jdavis703 »

exo762 wrote: post #32
brundolf wrote: post #26

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Protests in Belarus are way more civilized than recent protests in both Portland and the rest of USA. The difference is stark, shocking, and puzzling.

Considering America is awash in guns, I don’t think it should be surprising. In the early days of the republic there were many armed uprisings... Not to mention the US Civil War.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by pstuart »

exo762 wrote: post #32
brundolf wrote: post #26

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Protests in Belarus are way more civilized than recent protests in both Portland and the rest of USA. The difference is stark, shocking, and puzzling.

The US protests are being sabotaged with violence from outsiders to delegitimize them.

Re: PandaDoc employees arrested in Belarus after founders protest against violence

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Post by Symbiote »

bitdizzy wrote: post #37
formerly_proven wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RoW thinks Portland is borderline civil war anyway. Only a true American could conceive of hundreds of masked, rifle-bearing men marching around and clashing with other groups as a protest.

What is RoW?

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=RoW+abbreviation

Downvote me, this is probably against the guidelines, but there seem to be more and more lazy questions on here lately.

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