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Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Did we need a live-action version of Mulan? What was wrong with the animated version (that is better in the live version)? Edit: I might even have been excited about a new version of Mulan if not for the controversies surrounding it. It is a shame because it was one of my favourites as a child.

Not sure about "we", but Disney most likely wanted to earn some money from China, where the animated version was not very well received back then.

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> Disney is under fire for shooting its new film Mulan in parts of China where the government is accused of serious human rights abuses. Because as we all know, if they’d shot it in any other province, the crimes against humanity basically aren’t even happening!

There’s a difference between not stopping genocide and giving money and recognition to the people conducting it. The actual point of the criticism is more nuanced than what you quoted:

> social media users noticed that in the credits Disney thanked a number of government entities in Xinjiang, including the public security bureau in the city of Turpan and the "publicity department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Region Committee".

Re: Disney criticised for filming Mulan in China's Xinjiang province

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Did we need a live-action version of Mulan? What was wrong with the animated version (that is better in the live version)? Edit: I might even have been excited about a new version of Mulan if not for the controversies surrounding it. It is a shame because it was one of my favourites as a child.

We don’t “need” any movie. Anyway, I liked the live action one. Nothing groundbreaking of course but what movie is these days?

Damning with faint praise is my favorite!

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Did we need a live-action version of Mulan? What was wrong with the animated version (that is better in the live version)? Edit: I might even have been excited about a new version of Mulan if not for the controversies surrounding it. It is a shame because it was one of my favourites as a child.

Did we need a live version of Lord of The Rings? What was wrong with the print version? The original Mulan legend is good material as is the original movie. If the new movie had been any good we'd likely all be happy for it. A Star Was Born has been re-made 4 times. The most recent is the highest rated. Pride and Prejudice has been made several times. I personally really enjoyed the mid 90s version. Mutiny on Bounty…

I'd argue some of the recent disney efforts like the Lion King don't qualify for this because, unlike remakes of the past, it's basically a shot for shot recreation of the animated version. Something about that feels wrong to me. They're more like remasters.

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> Disney is under fire for shooting its new film Mulan in parts of China where the government is accused of serious human rights abuses. Because as we all know, if they’d shot it in any other province, the crimes against humanity basically aren’t even happening!

There’s a difference between not stopping genocide and giving money and recognition to the people conducting it. The actual point of the criticism is more nuanced than what you quoted: > social media users noticed that in the credits Disney thanked a number of government entities in Xinjiang, including the public security bureau in the city of Turpan and the "publicity department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Regio…

This probably implies they paid for permits and fees as well, which would make them direct supporters of the system. If this was a sanctioned country it would be a clear cut issue, but as long as the US can’t / refuses to impose sanctions there’s only consumer pressure.

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> Disney is under fire for shooting its new film Mulan in parts of China where the government is accused of serious human rights abuses. Because as we all know, if they’d shot it in any other province, the crimes against humanity basically aren’t even happening!

There’s a difference between not stopping genocide and giving money and recognition to the people conducting it. The actual point of the criticism is more nuanced than what you quoted: > social media users noticed that in the credits Disney thanked a number of government entities in Xinjiang, including the public security bureau in the city of Turpan and the "publicity department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Regio…

> giving money and recognition to the people conducting it.

Isn't this basically all products that we buy at walmart though. What is the difference. I don't understand the nuance here.

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Did we need a live-action version of Mulan? What was wrong with the animated version (that is better in the live version)? Edit: I might even have been excited about a new version of Mulan if not for the controversies surrounding it. It is a shame because it was one of my favourites as a child.

Did we need a live version of Lord of The Rings? What was wrong with the print version? The original Mulan legend is good material as is the original movie. If the new movie had been any good we'd likely all be happy for it. A Star Was Born has been re-made 4 times. The most recent is the highest rated. Pride and Prejudice has been made several times. I personally really enjoyed the mid 90s version. Mutiny on Bounty…

These are all good examples. Lord of the Rings is an interesting example because it's such a different medium.

I guess for me it's not so much the remaking even as Disney remaking it's own properties. I like the BBC pride and prejudice more than the more recent remake, but perhaps that's just nostalgia.

I haven't watched it yet, but I'm told the most recent Little Women is a better version.

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Did we need a live-action version of Mulan? What was wrong with the animated version (that is better in the live version)? Edit: I might even have been excited about a new version of Mulan if not for the controversies surrounding it. It is a shame because it was one of my favourites as a child.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mulan Pitch Meeting (spoilers) https://youtu.be/j_USHuhOqyk

I’m glad I watched that. Looks like the movie is a waste of time

I think it's worth at least one watch. Lots of fun Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon esque kung fu scenes.

The biggest problem really is Mulan being a Mary Sue.

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