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BitTorrent v2

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Re: BitTorrent v2

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If you want to circumvent the law, you must find a legal technicality, not a technical technicality. The key weakness in every smartass technical technicality to circumvent the law is forgetting that intent is core concept when the law is interpreted in the court. Did the defendant have intent to do X? Did the defendant use some purpose build technique to avoid doing the most literal interpretation X ? .. Yeah, defen…

IANAL, but afaik this depends on whether the legislation is English law or Latin law from origin. Where Latin law is more about the intent and english, and therefore US law, is more about the letter of the law. Perhaps the distinction is along a different axis but this is how I remember.

You are thinking about common law (originated in England) vs civil law (based on Roman law) In both systems intent is very important in criminal cases.

The real difference is between criminal law and contract law. In contract law. In contract law the intention is fixed by the language of the contract document. It matters less if matter if one party didn't intent to violate the contract. It is what it is.

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Because customers lose their minds with that model, largely as a result of conditioning that "internet" is an unlimited resource (which of course it is when instantaneous demand Personally I understand the economics around it, but still don't like the idea of paying per GB. I would end up skipping some Netflix and would get mad at kids for playing Netflix to an empty room (much like I currently get mad when they leav…

I really don't like the idea of limited bandwidth or charging per gigabyte because I know ISPs will rip people off and still not upgrade their networks to handle more traffic. But I think it would considerably change the Internet landscape. No more listening to the same exact song multiple times on Youtube or Spotify or whatever. No more downloading then deleting the same stuff over and over again. I think about it o…

>It's a lot of electricity used, I guess?

Is it though? How much electricity is used to serve a 1080p Netflix movie several times vs. playing the same movie from a local storage medium?

If you asked me, I'd rather burn Bitcoin mining rigs if I wanted to get rid of electricity waste.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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Because customers lose their minds with that model, largely as a result of conditioning that "internet" is an unlimited resource (which of course it is when instantaneous demand Personally I understand the economics around it, but still don't like the idea of paying per GB. I would end up skipping some Netflix and would get mad at kids for playing Netflix to an empty room (much like I currently get mad when they leav…

That kind of depends on the price pr gb. To use the power analogy, when I was young the price of power was relatively high but in recent times it has now dropped to 0.6 NOK / kWh so even charging the car from 10-80% (~61 kWh) cost 40 NOK or $4. I do not get mad at the kids leaving the light on like my mother did to me. I (or rather my job) currently pays about 1000 NOK/ month for unlimited 500 MBit synchronous fiber…

You pay for peace of mind that little Johnny doesn't download some crazy amount by accident. Now you don't have to monitor family usage so that makes things easier as well.

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Collisions in the context of bittorrent are not a big deal. We could (and will, there are millions of torrents around that will never be updated) keep using SHA1 and the world is not going to end.

They aren’t? So someone can craft a payload that contains a rootkit or similar and has the same name and hash as the thing you wanted, and this is okay? (Disclaimer: I don’t know all that much about how hashes are used internal to the protocol)

The weakness is a collision, not a pre-image attack. That means that a pair of payloads can be crafted together, one innocent and one malicious, that have the same hash. But it is not feasible to take a given file and make a new malicious payload with a matching hash.

So if you get your hash from whoever made the original binary, you can know that any binary with a matching hash is fine. But it could be a problem if someone creates a new pair of binaries and uploads the hash to TPB. You might see lots of good reviews from people who got the innocent version, but then the peers you connect to send you a malicious version with a matching hash.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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post #123

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Because customers lose their minds with that model, largely as a result of conditioning that "internet" is an unlimited resource (which of course it is when instantaneous demand Personally I understand the economics around it, but still don't like the idea of paying per GB. I would end up skipping some Netflix and would get mad at kids for playing Netflix to an empty room (much like I currently get mad when they leav…

I really don't like the idea of limited bandwidth or charging per gigabyte because I know ISPs will rip people off and still not upgrade their networks to handle more traffic. But I think it would considerably change the Internet landscape. No more listening to the same exact song multiple times on Youtube or Spotify or whatever. No more downloading then deleting the same stuff over and over again. I think about it o…

Wait until you hear how much CPU time and RAM is being wasted...

Re: BitTorrent v2

#139

Since we're on this topic, what's your torrent client of choice HN? I plainly use BitTorrent nowadays

Been a fan of Transmission on macOS for many years. I just wish I could install Transmission on a Linux box and still keep using the fantastic Cocoa interface it has on macOS.

Re: BitTorrent v2

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Since we're on this topic, what's your torrent client of choice HN? I plainly use BitTorrent nowadays

I use deluge just because it has a nice client and separate server which I leave running on another box.
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