Since we're on this topic, what's your torrent client of choice HN? I plainly use BitTorrent nowadays
uTorrent 2.2.1, which unfortunately seems like it won’t be viable going forward if v2 adoption picks up.
BitTorrent v2
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Re: BitTorrent v2
#122Since we're on this topic, what's your torrent client of choice HN? I plainly use BitTorrent nowadays
Transmission. If you're looking for one on android, LibreTorrent looks absolutely amazing
Re: BitTorrent v2
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?
Because customers lose their minds with that model, largely as a result of conditioning that "internet" is an unlimited resource (which of course it is when instantaneous demand Personally I understand the economics around it, but still don't like the idea of paying per GB. I would end up skipping some Netflix and would get mad at kids for playing Netflix to an empty room (much like I currently get mad when they leav…
I really don't like the idea of limited bandwidth or charging per gigabyte because I know ISPs will rip people off and still not upgrade their networks to handle more traffic.
But I think it would considerably change the Internet landscape. No more listening to the same exact song multiple times on Youtube or Spotify or whatever. No more downloading then deleting the same stuff over and over again. I think about it often, what a massive waste of bandwidth, I don't even know why. It's a lot of electricity used, I guess?
Even though I've got unlimited fiber, I'm looking for some sort of local "Internet cache" solution that would store everything so it would be re-downloaded from my home instead of across the ocean. Would be great for outages, too.
Re: BitTorrent v2
#124I've written a torrent client, and I'm skeptical than v2 will ever catch on. While it does solve some minor problems, it's not a large enough leap forward to justify the costs.
The use of SHA-1 in v1 seems like a major problem.
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That doesn't imply that BTv2 is the right successor protocol.
Re: BitTorrent v2
#125It feels like this isn't a large enough leap forward. It would be nice if BitTorrent v2 made it harder for ISPs to identify what is bit torrent traffic. AT&T artificially slows down upload speeds.
Why don't ISPs bill by the gigabyte and be done with it?
I imagine the data whales would not cover the loss revenue from people who just use online banking yet pay the same amount.
I've used 15 TB in the last 5 weeks with my torrent client alone (and considering my Backblaze backup size, that's not nearly all of my traffic), but how many people like me are there in the general public?
Re: BitTorrent v2
#126If you want to try a client with v2 (and v1+v2 hybrid) support, I've just released PicoTorrent v0.20 [0] based on Rasterbar-libtorrent 2.0 :)
[0] https://github.com/picotorrent/picotorrent/releases/tag/v0.2...
Re: BitTorrent v2
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
The sites could perform a bulk update for all their torrents if they so chose.
To update you need the data so you can rehash it. A typical tracker only has the torrent files and would take a very long time and spend a lot of possibly expensive bandwidth to download all the tracked torrents. And some torrents may not be seeded all the time.
They often just have the magnet links. I haven't looked into how that works, but I think the complete data is only on the seeders' machines, and the torrent propagates through DHT.
Re: BitTorrent v2
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because customers lose their minds with that model, largely as a result of conditioning that "internet" is an unlimited resource (which of course it is when instantaneous demand Personally I understand the economics around it, but still don't like the idea of paying per GB. I would end up skipping some Netflix and would get mad at kids for playing Netflix to an empty room (much like I currently get mad when they leav…
That kind of depends on the price pr gb. To use the power analogy, when I was young the price of power was relatively high but in recent times it has now dropped to 0.6 NOK / kWh so even charging the car from 10-80% (~61 kWh) cost 40 NOK or $4. I do not get mad at the kids leaving the light on like my mother did to me. I (or rather my job) currently pays about 1000 NOK/ month for unlimited 500 MBit synchronous fiber…
I thought internet in Norway was cheaper than in Denmark. Interesting. For comparison I pay 449 DKR/month for 1000/1000 unlimited fiber with a guaranteed bandwidth of minimum 950 (they are upgrading the network atm. hence not a guarantee on the full 1000 yet as some customers equipment is too old).
Is it a normal connection or a business connection perhaps?
Re: BitTorrent v2
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think anyone is expecting a sha256 collision in the next 20 years. The crypto doesn't seem to leave much wiggle room for exploitation.
Don't people always say exactly that? What are the chances of a collision if we simultaneously use multiple hashes, does it become significantly less likely?
> Don't people always say exactly that?
No, "they" don't. SHA1 collisions had been "in the wind" for a while, they had been in sight ever since MD5 started showing signs of clear weakness in the early '00s. Wikipedia has a Rivest quote about it from 2005. There is nothing like that for SHA2, although attacks are improving.
> What are the chances of a collision if we simultaneously use multiple hashes
Define "simultaneous". Shipping twice the hashes for each piece seems a big waste of space. If you mean re-hashing hashes, it's just a waste of cpu power, since an attacker only has to break one or the other to get in a position to poison data.
Re: BitTorrent v2
#130I make P2P tools too. [0] Let me tell you this: Bittorrent is one of the few things in the space that actually ... works. It works not in the sense that there is a white paper that should work. Not in the sense that there are a few company-made swarms hosted on industrial servers that keep everyone up and alive, so that the thing gives the impression the 'P2P' network does work. Not in the sense that there is a very-…
"there are a few company-made swarms hosted on industrial servers that keep everyone up and alive, so that the thing gives the impression the 'P2P' network does work"
What about the trackers?