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At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Re: At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Post by srtjstjsj »

lonelyasacloud wrote: post #55
biolurker1 wrote: post #3

I wish more people would learn about cryonics. It's either 0 or something above zero probability.

What, risk waking up to be transported to a "re-education" facility because what you did (or believed) in the past is no longer acceptable/legal to the current Maoist/Rightwing/Religious/Populist nut jobs in charge. Wake up to find the planet inundated and starving. Wake up to find that every single person you loved is now dead ... seems a bit of a hard sell.

My gut says that people into cryogenics aren't big on human relationships.

Re: At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Post by podgaj »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #58
podgaj wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if I never loose my money it is worthless! Ha! Sorry, no. It is our attachment to things that determine their worth.

Attachment is fear of loss, so mostly the loss is determining worth.

Not according to most spiritual thinkers. Attachment arises from craving. Even the fear of loss is a craving, ie, greed.

Re: At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Post by Aeronwen »

heavenlyblue wrote: post #17
biolurker1 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the argument is this: certain death vs a miniscule one in a quadrillion chance or lower. It will always tilt the other way no matter what the current scientific status quo is saying because it's possible in theory and it has happened to living organisms before just not humans. Whether it's good for environment, your siblings pocket etc is not part of the core argument.

Sound just like the argument for the worship of god.

God wants your exclusive devotion. The freezer doesn't care what else you're doing to help you to cheat death, so you can spread your faith around more and hedge your bets.

Re: At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Post by l_davis »

shekharshan wrote: post #46

“All that is mine, beloved and pleasing, will become otherwise and will become separated from me”— Siddhartha Gautama. As a Buddhist we do “contemplation of death” meditation on a regular basis. It involves imagining our last few hours on our deathbed. It is a wonderful exercise to help put things in context. It makes you behave differently towards people you meet, even strangers.

In my sect of Buddhism, we don't do "contemplation of death" meditation. What we are taught is to consider our last moment before death, so we can approach it (which is the beginning of our existence in death) in the proper way. And that, in my understanding, boils down to establishing the correct foundation during our life.

Re: At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Post by biolurker1 »

gus_massa wrote: post #62
biolurker1 wrote: post #43

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Yes this argument could be repurposed into: if you are born in Africa there is no reason to live

Africa is a big continent, there is a wide difference in income and education level, from country to country and even inside each country. If you have some spare money to pay a refrigerator for 100 years, you are probably spoiled and want nice living conditions afterwards. Anyway, imagine you live outside a city and have only a small plot of land for subsistence. After the 100 years you don't have even the small plot…

You are generalizing the argument giving conditions where life is worth it or not. That's not the point. And stop downvoting.

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Post by biolurker1 »

fipar wrote: post #64
biolurker1 wrote: post #36

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The argument is zero vs non-zero and anything else is noise

zero vs non-zero of what? If you say the argument is dying now vs dying later, sure, I'll agree.

Zero chance of living VS non zero chance of living. I thought that was a coders forum.

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Post by knorker »

b34r wrote: post #39
knorker wrote: post #32

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They should revive you because you paid for it.

Finding some 50-300 years in the future that cares might be a problem.

One would hope that the rule of law and private contracts still exists in 50-300 years.

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Post by knorker »

edflsafoiewq wrote: post #57
knorker wrote: post #32

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They should revive you because you paid for it.

Ahh, the afterlife, now available by payment plan, and much easier than that Kingdom-of-God stuff....

Not afterlife. It's just another medical treatment. And not one that much different from the current system world wide. If you have money/power you get better access to healthcare.

Sure, basically-everywhere-but-the-US has socialized medicine, but still everywhere if Jeff Bezos got sick he could go "I'll buy this hospital end every doctor in it. Do your best to cure me".

Freezing isn't magic. Just think of it as a better CPR. You wouldn't say this woman got "afterlife", even though apparently her blood wasn't pumping for 40 minutes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm

Also this: https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/26/science/the-doctor-s-worl...

Re: At 31, I have just weeks to live. Here's what I want to pass on

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Post by Smaug123 »

biolurker1 wrote: post #65
iso1631 wrote: post #21

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You're describing Pascal's wager.

I am not. That wager is about something unverifiable and unprogressable. This is based on biology and science and can become a reliaty. So not even close.

Well, it's not quite so black and white. We have something resembling a roadmap to achieving the revival of a cryopreserved patient, but it's hardly a certainty. The fact that your roadmap has a few more details on than does the roadmap of $religion does not make them qualitatively different.
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