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Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

#41
Two possible futures for ill-informed over-political correctness:

1. It continues to be pushed by those at the tops of organizations, which leads to a new pseudo-language of baby-talk that is constructed to be as inoffensive as possible. Simultaneously a ‘black market’ counter-culture emerges of those who don’t comply.

2. The entire enterprise collapses under its own weight and exhaustion. People get tired of being offended and move on.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

#42
Some time ago a fellow countryman, a basketball player, made it into NBA. After a controversial ruling by a judge that one of his teammates performed a foul, he kept yelling "ni ga, ni ga, ni ga". Contextually translated, he meant "he hadn't touched him".

He had to apologize profusely and explain to no end what he meant. Regardless, his career was soon over after that.

We, non-native speakers, must be really careful about using words in our own language that may sound offensive in the other language. What a world we created :(

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

#44

I've always found the US obsession with taboo words quite baffling. I used to tease Americans of my acquaintance by pretending to be offended when they said "oh my god" (dildo in French) or nick (fuck.) Context matters a lot in linguistic, and the Sapir-Worff hypothesis is not just unproven, it's almost certainly completely wrong.

Also with sexuality. My worry is that with the American cultural imperialism through Hollywood our European liberal approach to sexuality will become more puritanical. E.g. sex only after 18, teenage sex is more or less illegal (19y/o with a 17y/o).

Friends of mine already think that American laws around sexuality are valid worldwide and sex with an under-18 is forbidden. Which is absolutely false in the case of Germany.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

#45

So in Korean, the word for "you" is 니가 (pronounced "nee-gah"). Example usage: 니가 언제 먹었어요? (When did you eat? "Nee-gah un-jeh mug-uss-uh-yo") I can't help but wonder if the use of this word would also elicit a similar reaction... EDIT: I briefly forgot this, but there is a similar Korean word "내가" which is "me" or "I", and pronounced "ne-gah". Example usage: 내가 이 밥을 먹었어요. (I ate this food. "Ne-ga ee bap-uhl mug-uss-uh…

Probably not. The difference in vowel sounds, timing and intonation don't give it the same feel. It's pretty noticable when you hear Mandarin spoken because the word is usually spoken pretty quickly then the speaker trails off because they're thinking of what to say... Sometimes they say it two or three times on a row. So it really stands out.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

#47
"When people accept futility and the absurd as normal, the culture is decadent. The term is not a slur; it is a technical label." -- From Dawn to Decadence (2000), Jacques Barzun.

Clarification: here the slur is "decadent", not the one mentioned in the article.

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

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It says it means "That one" in Google translate? What's up with this?

I remember noticing in China that it seemed very common in Chinese casual chitchat, but to Western ears it sounded inappropriate. In the context of a lecture, I imagine it would come down to whether the delivery seemed genuinely part of the point or an excuse to push boundaries. Hard to gauge without audio/tone. I can’t think of why you’d report this unless you had a serious issue with the lecturer or they were being…

Someone linked a video above: https://twitter.com/cabot_phillips/status/130151642427657830...

Re: Professor suspended for saying 那个 nà ge

#49
From a movie I watched about 50 times as a youngster: [0] I wonder if such humor will ever be made again.

(fyi, me and my friends were all white but big fans of Tupac and Snoop and followed the whole Deathrow related dramas closely! Tupac is an absolute legend to me still, what an artist, pure poetry, It's very nice to listen to his music and get an idea about his life.)

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIk0abbYgXQ

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