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Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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“There’s no borders at all for IT engineers. They can find a job anywhere.” Uhm yeah, but they also have parents, siblings, girlfriends. Probably they might have some properties bought already. So as it may seem really advantageous to be in IT, one might not be able to move to another country just like that...

not all of them, but many engineers are willing to move if they don't have kids and can make it work

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. It also seems like Belarus is killing the goose that laid the golden egg here, not that that’s surprising behavior from an authoritarian regime fighting for its life.

> It also seems like Belarus is killing the goose that laid the golden egg here If some kind of deeper integration with Russia is on the horizon, as many have expected for years, then this might hardly matter. The overall Russian economy is so based on the export of natural resources, that the ruling stratum is hardly worried about other industries like the IT sector. All those Russians except for the ~10 million nee…

The Russian economy is both super small (last time I looked it was smaller than Italy), and not terribly diversified. I’d be a bit worried about it I lived there.

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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post #6

“There’s no borders at all for IT engineers. They can find a job anywhere.” Uhm yeah, but they also have parents, siblings, girlfriends. Probably they might have some properties bought already. So as it may seem really advantageous to be in IT, one might not be able to move to another country just like that...

And it's naive to say that there's no borders. You have to be qualified for the visa requirements. You also have to renew this visa every year or so. You have to start all over. Of course everything is possible with some effort and money, but i'm tired of seeing this term "no borders for it engineers".

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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For those that hit a paywall/ no-script block, here are some alternative links to what I presume to be pretty much the same article https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-belarus-election-tech-idUK... https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/belarus-it-w... https://icotalknews.com/business/tech-workers-flee-belarus-a... P.P.S This was one of things I used to use the now defunct 'Web' button for https://news.ycombin…

most news articles can be traced beck to Reuters verbatim, it's strange how few people go to the actual source and seek out a rose-tinted alternative

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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I have a theory that when news orgs nurture soft authoritarians (Bush/Patriot Act, Obama/espionage charges for whistleblowers) their weakened journalistic instincts leave a vacuum that's easy for harder line authoritarians to fill.

That's what I believed happened in the US. I wonder if a similar process happened in Belarus.

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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I have a theory that when news orgs nurture soft authoritarians (Bush/Patriot Act, Obama/espionage charges for whistleblowers) their weakened journalistic instincts leave a vacuum that's easy for harder line authoritarians to fill. That's what I believed happened in the US. I wonder if a similar process happened in Belarus.

Curious why the onus is on journalists and not complacent political parties or branches/members of government.

Sure, newsrooms can sway public opinion, but they’re also basically the only reason we know about those problems to begin with. Blaming them seems akin to treating a symptom, not the cause.

Not trying to disagree. I do think journalists today are partially responsible for our current situation - especially White House correspondents, whom are wholly ineffective at challenging any statements from the president or calling out outright lies.

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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It was already authorization- its the "last dictatorship in europe" - what did they think it was before?

> its the "last dictatorship in europe"

Well, I mean, if you ignore the country that takes up 39% (maybe a little more de facto after recent unilateral border alterations) of Europe, sure.

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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It was already authorization- its the "last dictatorship in europe" - what did they think it was before?

People don't see a dictator as a dictator until they disagree with the dictator's actions.

This is a slippery slope of course and that's why it's important to retain term limits, ensure elections are fair and untampered with, and impeach a leader when they stray toward dictatorship policies and procedures, even if you agree with those policies and procedures. It takes a lot courage to impeach a leader you agree with.

Re: Tech workers flee Belarus as IT haven takes authoritarian turn

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It was already authorization- its the "last dictatorship in europe" - what did they think it was before?

> its the "last dictatorship in europe" Well, I mean, if you ignore the country that takes up 39% (maybe a little more de facto after recent unilateral border alterations) of Europe, sure.

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