I get a lot of hotel offers, essentially robocalls. Is there an opt out for the same?
Just registered with FTC's do not call list, let's hope that works.
This is an awful idea. The volume of spam calls I receive greatly increased when I did this.
Data Broker Opt-Out List
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US has been dismantling the rule of law for decades. They call it "deregulation". It lead directly to the last big financial crash, and it also is largely responsible for predatory schools, prisons, universities, banks, and much more.
I would argue that it's not only deregulation. It's the fact that we exist in a middle ground between proper regulation and a proper free market. Either of those, and we'd be able to do fine. As it is, we get the downsides of both.
While there are probably things that would be improved in a "proper" free market, I feel like that's overestimating the average person's ability to make informed decisions.
There will always be an information and power asymmetry between ordinary people/consumers and special interests/corporations.
Sure, people could form consumer rights groups, boycott companies with unconscionable data collection policies, demand a sane and afforable health care system, etc. But people have a limited attention budget. It's just too hard to care about everything, so people don't.
That's also why we don't have proper regulation; if we cared about having a functional, efficient government we would, but we don't really care that much.
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#63It would be nice if there was an indication if any of these cover non-American citizens, Europe in particular.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Deadlines help a lot. Has it elapsed, and what was the followup?
yes it elapsed and the "profile" is still up. my only choice now is to complain to my "data protection commissioner" but considering GDPR has no teeth I'm not confident it will impress anyone.
It has teeth, but it's not very hungry right now. Still, if you complain and CC crunchbase in, then it's them who have to do this calculation, and in context of risk. It may just be enough to get them to remove the data about you.
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#65be careful you guys. these are awful people collecting this data, and i'm pretty suspicious that they will use the additional data they gather form you when you opt out ("for proof its you") and use it against you in their other databases. for instance, i confirmed my phone and email info in order to opt out of one but another clone site now says my information is "Verified".
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#66By opting out sometimes you have to provide them with even more information than what they initially had.
Exactly as most are asking for email which inadvertently can confirm the identity and if you use the same email for other services, they can get even more data about you. I guess it's a matter of trust, how much do you trust their 'opt out' promise.
If you're paranoid, definitely use a throwaway email for the opt out. They already have so much info on me that I'm doubtful that confirming my identity would add anything to that.
I guess we're lucky that most of these SEO-saavy brokers seem to at least pay lip service to US/EU laws (or even do so voluntarily, since I think only a handful of states actually restrict selling your publicly-available or personal information online).
I shudder to think about what's floating around for sale on the dark web or companies hosted in countries that don't care about US law.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would argue that it's not only deregulation. It's the fact that we exist in a middle ground between proper regulation and a proper free market. Either of those, and we'd be able to do fine. As it is, we get the downsides of both.
While there are probably things that would be improved in a "proper" free market, I feel like that's overestimating the average person's ability to make informed decisions. There will always be an information and power asymmetry between ordinary people/consumers and special interests/corporations. Sure, people could form consumer rights groups, boycott companies with unconscionable data collection policies, demand a…
What I would be banking on most within a "proper" free market would be corporations ability to fail in extraordinary circumstances, as opposed to the current setup where it seems like corps get bail-out after bail-out.
With this being the case, more small companies would be able to compete, at least in theory.
That being said, I believe you are correct. It just seems that the only way to improve things is to get to the point where people do think before purchasing, regardless of the state of State.
As far as having an efficient state goes, I would find it more likely that it's not going to happen because those in power have incentive to maintain the current status. It both provides opportunities for corruption and gives an excellent platform to run on.
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#68be careful you guys. these are awful people collecting this data, and i'm pretty suspicious that they will use the additional data they gather form you when you opt out ("for proof its you") and use it against you in their other databases. for instance, i confirmed my phone and email info in order to opt out of one but another clone site now says my information is "Verified".
I’m sure in some countries that would make them liable. It’s a shame the US probably isn’t one of them, our litigative culture would put an end to that stupidity very quickly.
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#69I'm surprised they have my name and address though it's a few years outdated. How did they get it? If I opt out, doesn't it confirm that what they have is accurate and make my data even more valuable? Given the nature of these sites, isn't it sketchy to provide DL to opt out or am I being paranoid?
It would confirm your data but they’re legally bound to respect your choice. For any fairly large orgs (eg if they’re public/listed on major exchanges) disobeying your choice would be a huge risk which they will likely not take ( the smaller data brokers don’t have as much to lose, but just to be clear it would still be illegal).
> they’re legally bound to respect your choice
Can I ask by what law?
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#70If anyone cares, there are a nontrivial amount of companies who have your 'private' LinkedIn info. I don't know if they make fake accounts to friend you, recruiter profiles, or buy it from LinkedIn. I asked one to please remove my info, and they sent me a CCPA form. I told them I didn't live in California, and an agent acted confused and told me to just fill it out, it's the only way to remove it. In short, don't tru…
I’ve realized a long long time ago that any interaction with linked-in is a bad idea.
You might think facebook behaves pathologically but linked-in takes it to a new level!