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Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by cwhiz »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #89
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #3

Awesome. Now we can see if the movie and media industry experience a correlated rise in profits and settle this question whether "piracy" damages these industries once and for all.

At what point have people become so entitled that they think they should be able to consume all the content they want for free because they are slightly inconvenienced by price or availability. If you don't feel like paying, don't watch it. If you don't feel like finding out what service a show is on, don't watch it. If you don't like the fact that you need to subscribe to multiple streaming networks to watch the sho…

I upvoted you. But these corporations do this to themselves with region locking and other DRM shenanigans. The only way for me to truly “own” some content is to pirate it.

Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by linspace »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #89
tenebrisalietum wrote: post #3

Awesome. Now we can see if the movie and media industry experience a correlated rise in profits and settle this question whether "piracy" damages these industries once and for all.

At what point have people become so entitled that they think they should be able to consume all the content they want for free because they are slightly inconvenienced by price or availability. If you don't feel like paying, don't watch it. If you don't feel like finding out what service a show is on, don't watch it. If you don't like the fact that you need to subscribe to multiple streaming networks to watch the sho…

I have upvoted you not because I completely agree but because I think the downvotes are unfair and promote some kind of unimind. My point of view: no one is entitled to anything and law should adjust to what is better for society as a whole. I personally don't own any pirated software, video or music. I usually download books and the few I find interesting and actually read I end buying. I think it's good for society to have some protection for creators. That said I do wonder if the nice streaming services we currently have and I happily pay would be available if piracy hadn't forced companies to innovate how to distribute their products.

Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by em-bee »

BoorishBears wrote: post #130
em-bee wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i don't want to watch everything. i watch about one hour of tv per day. maybe a movie once a week. i have a very specific list of things i do want to see. favourite shows, certain actors, prefered genres. but what i want to see is spread over half a dozen services. for $30 i get a lot of content that i don't want, and with every additional service i get more content that i don't want. and yet i'd have to spend more t…

"Everything" doesn't refer to every show in existence... You want a 5 course dinner with items from 5 restaurants. You don't want to eat everything on each restaurant's menu... but you want to eat "everything", * you want a plate of everyone's content* - I'm saying you're allowed to want that, but if you can't afford it don't blame the restaurants for not huddling under one roof and making this imaginary buffet with…

i didn't have your experience, but then i only lived a few years in the US, so i didn't really have much opportunity to familiarise myself with the options.

in my home country cable was available for a decent price without hidden fees because such trickery is illegal there.

for the restaurant: food courts do exist, and they can have surprisingly high quality food, so yes, it is possible to create a market where everyone can pick and choose.

sure, for you the current situation may be an improvement. and if you are satisfied with that, that's fine.

i am not satisfied because i know we can do better.

Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by BoorishBears »

em-bee wrote: post #133
BoorishBears wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Everything" doesn't refer to every show in existence... You want a 5 course dinner with items from 5 restaurants. You don't want to eat everything on each restaurant's menu... but you want to eat "everything", * you want a plate of everyone's content* - I'm saying you're allowed to want that, but if you can't afford it don't blame the restaurants for not huddling under one roof and making this imaginary buffet with…

i didn't have your experience, but then i only lived a few years in the US, so i didn't really have much opportunity to familiarise myself with the options. in my home country cable was available for a decent price without hidden fees because such trickery is illegal there. for the restaurant: food courts do exist, and they can have surprisingly high quality food, so yes, it is possible to create a market where every…

Food courts exist and often have very lower quality food at higher prices than individual restaurants because it turns out the overhead of having everything under one roof, and having to compete with redundant choices, takes away from the bottom line.

So I'd say you're over thinking the analogy, but actually that's the perfect representation of what's wrong with cable.

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Not to mention, my comment isn't just saying "it's good because it's better than cable", that's just focusing on an aside lol.

My comment is "it's good period as you're (god forbid) willing to watch something else once in a while, or pay for it." Hell like I said I don't care if you pirate it just again don't pretend the studio made you by not making a bespoke service with everything you want.

And also your comment about your home country... something tells me your home country doesn't have the worlds largest entertainment industry: https://www.selectusa.gov/media-entertainment-industry-unite...

People often confuse raw sales with revenue, even Bollywood revenue the pails in comparison to American revenue

That being the case a simple comparison of "I paid less elsewhere" doesn't represent the reality of things. You were either paying for less overall content, or paying for a lot of content produced and heavily funded by the US payment structure and much more cheaply licensed to your country.

The complication being of course, if it was values at that pricing locally then the shows wouldn't exist.

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And it's not like the US was alone in their cable situation so I'm very surprised to hear it was better else aside from the fees. The fees were problematic, but by it's very nature cable involves hardware and often has termed contracts

I've lived in multiple other countries (I wasn't born in the US) and 10 years ago I find it very hard to believed any country has cable (or even worse satellite) TV at "decent price" without the "pay us more for HD" and bundled packages mess unless there was just straight up a barely any content compared to the kinds of packages I'm talking about.

Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by robbixcx »

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #3

Awesome. Now we can see if the movie and media industry experience a correlated rise in profits and settle this question whether "piracy" damages these industries once and for all.

Sadly, people that cannot download the specific content they wanted will end up watching something else (probably of lesser quality) on a streaming service they already pay for. Indirectly confirming that less piracy equal more people watching legal content

Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by anoncake »

hesdeadjim wrote: post #96
SN76477 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Piracy is a service issue.

Hardly, piracy exists because people can't resist getting something for free when the consequences are non-existent. It's fundamentally a moral issue, but practitioners are dexterous at avoiding that line of thinking.

Please don't assume your moral framework is in any way universal.

Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases

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Post by ficklepickle »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #78
tehwebguy wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not blaming you as you aren't the one to set them in the first place, but the goal posts keep moving! Two decades post-Napster we finally have what everyone wanted all along: an easy, cheap way to watch almost every movie without leaving the couch / listen to almost every song from almost any device. But now it's not good enough unless it's literally every piece of content from a single origin 0_0

A quick check on reelgood: Arctic Air - Arctic Air Season 1 is not streaming nor available to rent or purchase. jPod - jPod Season 1 is not streaming nor available to rent or purchase. Being Erica - List several streaming services that have it, including Pluto TV, which is free/ad supported. So three Canadian tv shows off the top of my head and there's only a 33% hit rate. That's not very good.

Billable Hours - Not available anywhere! I managed to find a torrent, although the quality is low. I think it is a good show that was before its time.
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