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Re: Chanakya

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Post by t0ughcritic »

swamy_g wrote: post #28
01100011 wrote: post #26

It's nice to see some Asian history for a change. In the west, it seems as we only have an interest in the historical narratives of Egypt, Greece, Rome, and Europe. Dense civilizations existed in South and East Asian stretching back thousands of years and our history classes and popular culture barely touch on them. I'd love to see more pop culture(games, movies, etc) explore the history of what is now India, Thailan…

I think we'll have to do this on our own and not rely on Hollywood or studios from the west. Bahubali was probably a good start. But more needs to be done. I'm starting to wonder whether it's a question of talent or question of capital. I seriously hope it's the latter.

Propensity to spend on games possibly as well

Re: Chanakya

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Post by chancemehmu »

actuator wrote: post #29
01100011 wrote: post #26

It's nice to see some Asian history for a change. In the west, it seems as we only have an interest in the historical narratives of Egypt, Greece, Rome, and Europe. Dense civilizations existed in South and East Asian stretching back thousands of years and our history classes and popular culture barely touch on them. I'd love to see more pop culture(games, movies, etc) explore the history of what is now India, Thailan…

I am assuming for games at least, the market in say India is not big enough that it can cover the cost of making something high budget. Once the market becomes bigger in terms of ability to spend, there might be more content. For example Japan, China have big enough markets and both have dedicated games in Total War series on parts of their history.

I would say things are starting to look good even for India. Check out Raji the game ,which imo is high quality and looks interesting. The gaming movement in India got a big boost after PUBG, COD, etc. but ofcourse it’s still in a very nascent stage.

Re: Chanakya

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Post by searchableguy »

chancemehmu wrote: post #32
actuator wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am assuming for games at least, the market in say India is not big enough that it can cover the cost of making something high budget. Once the market becomes bigger in terms of ability to spend, there might be more content. For example Japan, China have big enough markets and both have dedicated games in Total War series on parts of their history.

I would say things are starting to look good even for India. Check out Raji the game ,which imo is high quality and looks interesting. The gaming movement in India got a big boost after PUBG, COD, etc. but ofcourse it’s still in a very nascent stage.

https://themakoreactor.com/features/raji-an-ancient-epic-rel...

Interesting story!

Re: Chanakya

#34

Post by dr_dshiv »

Socrates reportedly met an Indian philosopher in Athens, according to Aristoxenus, student of Aristotle [1].

Some of Ashoka's pillars had Greek inscriptions [2]

Greece and India used to share borders. A Greek king became Buddhist. [2]

[1] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249942188_Some_Rema...

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism

Re: Chanakya

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Post by dr_dshiv »

Many thousands of undiscovered manuscripts, invaluable to India's literary legacy, are rotting away as we speak. There is very little financial support for archeology or manuscriptology in India. So much has been lost already. And, of the estimated known 40 million manuscripts, no one is being trained to read and translate them! Opportunity for philanthropy?

https://www.dailyo.in/arts/ancient-manuscripts-india-sanskri...

https://www.newindianexpress.com/thinkedu2020/2020/jan/08/hi...

https://namami.gov.in/manuscriptology-polygraphy

Re: Chanakya

#36

Post by crispyporkbites »

actuator wrote: post #9
captn3m0 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also far more misogynistic.

If we judge any ancient work by our current morals, we would most likely be left wanting. This book was written almost 2500 years back.

I half agree with this. IMO we should absolutely throw out content that doesn’t fit within modern morals, given our modern morals are objectively more correct and humanist than anything prior (if that is not the case we should challenge our morals not the prior text). However we can still learn from and stand to lose a great deal by destroying content with morally questionable angles.

So what we really want is an interpretation / disclaimer in front of this work that makes it clear how we should interpret it through a framework that applies today without bringing off-topic morality questions into play.

Re: Chanakya

#37

Post by bluishgreen »

TIL: That Chanakya's work was lost to history and was rediscovered in 1909. And the manuscripts that contained the treatise was donated to the scholars by a pandit from my home town (Tanjore or the modern Thanjavur). That drastically alters my sense of my own history. We knew of the big temple[1] circa 1000AD and all the scholarly thinking that went on around that time and the town has several UNESCO World Heritage sites from that period. But to house a script from circa 200 BCE, that is new to me.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brihadisvara_Temple,_Thanjavur

Re: Chanakya

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Post by spaceman_2020 »

01100011 wrote: post #26

It's nice to see some Asian history for a change. In the west, it seems as we only have an interest in the historical narratives of Egypt, Greece, Rome, and Europe. Dense civilizations existed in South and East Asian stretching back thousands of years and our history classes and popular culture barely touch on them. I'd love to see more pop culture(games, movies, etc) explore the history of what is now India, Thailan…

I'm always amazed whenever I mention the Indus Valley Civilization and most people have never even heard of it - they think "ancient civilization" means the Egyptians and Mesopotamians!

Re: Chanakya

#39

Post by aeontech »

chancemehmu wrote: post #32
actuator wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am assuming for games at least, the market in say India is not big enough that it can cover the cost of making something high budget. Once the market becomes bigger in terms of ability to spend, there might be more content. For example Japan, China have big enough markets and both have dedicated games in Total War series on parts of their history.

I would say things are starting to look good even for India. Check out Raji the game ,which imo is high quality and looks interesting. The gaming movement in India got a big boost after PUBG, COD, etc. but ofcourse it’s still in a very nascent stage.

The gameplay demo video looks very cool!

https://youtu.be/9qKxXNOljmE

Re: Chanakya

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Post by dr_dshiv »

bluishgreen wrote: post #37

TIL: That Chanakya's work was lost to history and was rediscovered in 1909. And the manuscripts that contained the treatise was donated to the scholars by a pandit from my home town (Tanjore or the modern Thanjavur). That drastically alters my sense of my own history. We knew of the big temple[1] circa 1000AD and all the scholarly thinking that went on around that time and the town has several UNESCO World Heritage s…

That's amazing. Just imagine what other manuscripts might be found in temples around India...
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