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Ask PG: Can we see the response to the HN changes?

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Have people commented more? Does user karma matter? Are there more "quality" posts? Is there a different subset of users posting?

Probably too early to tell, but it would be nice to see what happens when you take karma away from comments. I am trying to imagine reddit without it and it doesn't seem quite as interesting. Some hard data would be cool to look at.

Re: Ask PG: Can we see the response to the HN changes?

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post #5

I really like it. It actually makes me participate more. It's always interesting though to see how many points someone got that commented on your comment, so perhaps after a certain "sleep" period we could be able to see the score?

There's already a timer that determines when a thread gets locked. Perhaps after it's locked, display scores.

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#8
I'd still like to see an experiment where the up and down arrows (generally interpreted to mean "agree/disagree") are replaced with "| interesting | spam" before the present "|link" in the comment header.

Or any two words that intellectually interrupt the "vote up / vote down" reflex to vote down unpopular or dissenting points of view no matter how well thought out.

Re: Ask PG: Can we see the response to the HN changes?

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post #7

I think we need to let it go on for at least a week before drawing any conclusions. People need to integrate this way of displaying posts into their mental model for the site, and that takes time. Before that happens, none of the data will be meaningful.

I agree. I feel like I need to get used to it first before I can decide whether or not I like it. Besides- maybe more change trials are coming? I'm actually curious as to how pg (and others?) is /are going to evaluate the changes. Monitor chatter? Randomly distributed survey? I'm curious because I'm not sure how much thought/effort it's really worth, and I wonder how much pg &co think it's worth.

Re: Ask PG: Can we see the response to the HN changes?

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Personally I'm really missing seeing the karma on comments.

Fundamentally, removing them has changed the balance of what karma is all about. Karma previously had a function for the reader. It highlighted and bubbled up the good. It showed where there were good counter points. Now...well it's just for the account owner. It feels just like it's there for your own rpg-levelling style dopamine hit. It feels pointless.

I really feel this is a mistake. Comment karma had a function for readers, not just for account owner's inner satisfaction. This role has now been lost. It's making browsing comments - especially for very popular topics with lots of comments - much harder. I'm skimming a lot more or actually skipping the comments altogether because I don't want to read them all to find the goodness. It also means people can't learn from others what is or is not a valued contribution.

So I really hope this will be reversed or at the least make a better way (more than just what is the top comment) to make karma benefit the community not just the individual.

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