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Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by ashtonkem »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #168
bfuclusion wrote: post #148

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Yes, but the effect is magnified if they're in your country. You would collect local taxes, and the majority of money spent would circulate inside the economy, rather leaving.

That isn't zero sum though. Plus, I doubt Stenberg living in the US would noticeably alter his contributions to the US economy.

Taxes are absolutely zero sum. In most cases only one country gets to collect the taxes from a person.

Stenberg is one of those rare cases where he has a huge impact on multiple companies in multiple countries. Most of us aren’t like that; I personally work for a US company paying US taxes, consume in the US paying more taxes and enriching US companies, and I don’t make any libraries or services with international impact. My contributions to the economy is so lop sided that it’s almost zero sum. If I were to move to another country, I’d deprive the US of my tax revenue & consumption, and provide all of that to my new country.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by ashtonkem »

gowld wrote: post #173
ashtonkem wrote: post #160

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That is really bizarre. From an outsiders view, sterile transit seems extremely intuitive; forcing people to buy a visa if their plane gets fuel in the US just seems annoying.

The insiders make the rules. They might fear you will break sterility, or they might hate your ethnicity or religion.

Or, they want to collect $160 visa fees for nothing, and avoid having to expensively add sterile transit areas to existing airports.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by smnrchrds »

angst_ridden wrote: post #144
smnrchrds wrote: post #138

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The longest queue is still up to 15-19 months long. There may be some expired streams that are taking longer than that, but none of the current immigration streams are supposed to take anywhere near that long.

I can only speak from personal experience. I've been in the process since 2015, and have had confirmation that I can't expect resolution for up to another 30 months.

That is quite strange. If you don't mind me asking, what is the stream under which you have applied?

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by pwinnski »

mdifrgechd wrote: post #27

The headline is odd, this has been going on for 870 days, as documented on his site. It looks like the last update is from 2019. The headline reads like he cant come in for the next 870 days.

It has now been 871 days, and "This page was edited with new content on: September 4, 2020."

Looks like posting here has prompted an update.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by refurb »

dwheeler wrote: post #176
refurb wrote: post #114

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Oh when it comes to immigration issues for the family of US citizens, yes, calling your Congressman can definitely move things along. But a foreigner whose visa is denied? Not sure why the Congressman would bother unless it somehow impacted the US.

They have an incentive to do it because the congressman is my representative, and I am a voter who is a complaining. I live near DC, so I guess I assume others know more about the US system than is common knowledge. My apologies. Please let me explain. Of course the congressman will not actually read the letter. That's not the point. The point is that every congressman has a mechanism for accepting requests from cons…

No doubt you can try and hey, maybe it will work?

I definitely know it works for people stuck in the immigration system, but this particular example (a visa for a temporary trip to the US) doesn’t seem like it would rank all that high on a Congressman’s priorities.

My guess is they’ll look into and tell you there isn’t anything they could do. Might speed up the rejection though.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by gonehome »

cvhashim wrote: post #157
switch11 wrote: post #117

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I run a startup in Montreal can attest to that level of talent is insane Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal are all blowing up thank you US for sending all the best techies to Canada

If Trump wins in November this will continue for the rest of the decade.

I’m definitely considering it (Vancouver), but 50% capital gains tax is brutal and will make it hard to move.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by angst_ridden »

smnrchrds wrote: post #183
angst_ridden wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only speak from personal experience. I've been in the process since 2015, and have had confirmation that I can't expect resolution for up to another 30 months.

That is quite strange. If you don't mind me asking, what is the stream under which you have applied?

I'm a bit skittish about posting too many specific details on a public forum until my application has been processed. This may be foolish, but I've put a lot of time and money into it, and significant aspects of my future are riding on being approved. I'd message you details directly if I could figure out how.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by boomboomsubban »

ashtonkem wrote: post #181
boomboomsubban wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't zero sum though. Plus, I doubt Stenberg living in the US would noticeably alter his contributions to the US economy.

Taxes are absolutely zero sum. In most cases only one country gets to collect the taxes from a person. Stenberg is one of those rare cases where he has a huge impact on multiple companies in multiple countries. Most of us aren’t like that; I personally work for a US company paying US taxes, consume in the US paying more taxes and enriching US companies, and I don’t make any libraries or services with international im…

> If I were to move to another country, I’d deprive the US of my tax revenue & consumption, and provide all of that to my new country.

Your labor could still be used by an American company, and your labor is by far your biggest contribution to the economy. This isn't even close to zero sum, that's why globalism and colonialism are things.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

While I appreciate the US as a tourist, the psychopatic, hosile employees at the border made me change my mind a few times and go spend my euros elsewhere.

Russia was the only other country so openly unfriendly in letting me in.

Seriously, that should be fixed,the US have great places to visit.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by nathansoz »

refurb wrote: post #129
nathansoz wrote: post #31

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This is just... wrong? We want smart people here in the US. We should poach them and entice them to come here by all reasonable measures. Plus, people aren't having kids like they used to. So you need to replace population somehow. See also: Japan.

We want smart people here in the US Agreed. But ~90% of all permanent residencies approved have nothing to do with education or employment. It's just family reunification.

"Just family reunification"

Also a good thing in and of itself.

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