It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
Piracy is a service issue.
Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
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Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
These aren't new arguments, really... but when I steal a cookie from the cookie jar, there's one less cookie in the cookie jar. When I steal a movie on a torrent site, the copyright owner didn't lose a copy of the movie. One can argue that it represents an economic loss insofar as the person who stole it isn't going to buy a copy now, but a response you often hear to that is relatively few who pirate content would ha…
> When I steal a movie on a torrent site Is this the right thing to do? Is this something you should be doing? Is this something you feel you have the right to do? Remember that I didn't mention anything about economic loss.
> Is this the right thing to do? Is this something you should be doing?
People have said it better than me, but in short: Disney and friends have legally stolen public domain from all of us and erected a barrier between us and our human right to access to our culture. I therefore consider it my moral right to take back what should be mine - I may not have the means to buy the laws that would make it legal, but I have the technical means to do it and therefore I do.
So yes, I consider it the right thing to do. Civil disobedience, if you will.
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#23It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
Not to distract from the bigger piracy issues, but I've found JustWatch.com and their mobile app to be a quick way to figure out where a given show or movie is available. No relation to them, just a satisfied user.
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#24It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
Piracy is a service issue.
I wish there was a service where I could donate money to the animators, composers, writers, etc for a movie. I want to pay them directly for their work. Trickle down be damned.
Could also be nice if there was some sort of system where the people who actually worked on the film could decide who really deserves the money.
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#25It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
I'm not blaming you as you aren't the one to set them in the first place, but the goal posts keep moving!
Two decades post-Napster we finally have what everyone wanted all along: an easy, cheap way to watch almost every movie without leaving the couch / listen to almost every song from almost any device.
But now it's not good enough unless it's literally every piece of content from a single origin 0_0
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#26It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
Let's not kid ourselves, finding a torrent for a movie or looking up which service it streams on are both the same level of easy.[] The issue is you have to subscribe to all those different services, which is what most people are probably not willing to do.
Now if a show or movie doesn't stream in your region or isn't otherwise easily online accessible, that's a different story. In that case it's on the industry to do better. When content is readily available on a streaming service, I don't think it's fair to point at the entertainment industry and say they have a problem to solve. In that case 'the problem' might actually be people wanting to watch movies and not pay for it.
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#27It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
I think that problem has been solved for the most part.
and other services are excellent for it.
To me, the real issue is finding movies/tv shows where you cannot buy or rent them. Amazingly, it is still an issue in this world.
I would love to see The Bob Mathias Story from 1954. It was created by Allied Artists that has been bought and sold a few times ending up at ViacomCBS. Through many weeks of trying to find out if I could get a copy the best I could get was ViacomCBS sometimes allows it to be shown on TV.
I want to buy/rent a copy of movie that exists and cannot. How in 2020 can this happen?
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#28It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
If cost wasn't an issue, I don't think that's really true.
My friend uses sonarr + usenet and its not as easy as amazon/google/itunes/redbox/fandago rentals or purchases on a roku.
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
These aren't new arguments, really... but when I steal a cookie from the cookie jar, there's one less cookie in the cookie jar. When I steal a movie on a torrent site, the copyright owner didn't lose a copy of the movie. One can argue that it represents an economic loss insofar as the person who stole it isn't going to buy a copy now, but a response you often hear to that is relatively few who pirate content would ha…
> When I steal a movie on a torrent site Is this the right thing to do? Is this something you should be doing? Is this something you feel you have the right to do? Remember that I didn't mention anything about economic loss.
If you weren't going to buy it anyway, yes it's absolutely the right thing to do. Your utility increases, nobody elses decreases. Total utility increases therefore it is ethical.
Re: Scene bust triggered historic drop in ‘pirate’ releases
#30It's much easier to pirate the content and have a single source of media than trying to figure out which pay service a show/movie is available on. 'Piracy' of tv/movies won't go away until that problem is solved.
I think that problem has been solved for the most part. https://reelgood.com/ and other services are excellent for it. To me, the real issue is finding movies/tv shows where you cannot buy or rent them. Amazingly, it is still an issue in this world. I would love to see The Bob Mathias Story from 1954. It was created by Allied Artists that has been bought and sold a few times ending up at ViacomCBS. Through many weeks…
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