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"Anyway, have you ever tried to use man? It's fine as long as you know what you are looking for. How would you ever find out the name of command given just the function you wanted to execute? You can't. " One of my gripes with UNIX systems is how opaque they are
"Anyway, have you ever tried to use man? It's fine as long as you know what you are looking for. How would you ever find out the name of command given just the function you wanted to execute? You can't. " One of my gripes with UNIX systems is how opaque they are
The complaints here don't seem to be much about how Unix works in a deep way, but rather the particular language/syntax which is used to interact with it ("rm", etc.). While that's certainly annoying in many ways, so are almost all languages in common use. You could write a lot about how horrible English is (or German, as Mark Twain famously did). But English is a useful standard - politics, inertia, and the value of…
FWIW, there are plenty of complaints about things other than syntax after the fifth paragraph or so, too ;).
"Anyway, have you ever tried to use man? It's fine as long as you know what you are looking for. How would you ever find out the name of command given just the function you wanted to execute? You can't. " One of my gripes with UNIX systems is how opaque they are
à propos means apt/appropriate as a noun in french and in English, but the phrase « à propos de … » means “about …” ; which is much more (wait for it) à propos. It is kind of weird that it was used in Unix wherein only the noun form made sense ; and even with french in mind the “apropos ” syntax (without « de ») makes it sound weird. In practice I don't think I've ever used it, and when I was a noob I often lamented…
It was introduced in 3.0BSD, it's pretty old :). As for usage, while I'm not a native French speaker, I don't think I've heard it used as a noun that often. I can't speak (heh :P) for Canadian speakers of French -- perhaps there are different norms for the use of various idioms there, and I learned French in Europe -- but over here I don't think anyone ever had trouble figuring out what the apropos command would do...
Well, maybe more people would have used VAX/VMS or OpenVMS if it had been open source.
I grew up on Unix in the 80's, cut my teeth on MIPS RISC/os and then Irix and SunOS and all the joys of the very first days of Linux, oh my .. and I was fully prepared to be an SGI fanboy for the rest of my life - and then, they abandoned Irix and shipped NT. sadface
So when the tiBook came out, and it was promised to have a Unix on it, I jumped off my Indy and O2 workstation onto Apple - a company I'd never imagined, in my wildest 80's and 90's fever dreams, would become the one company still standing in the Unix wars. The tiBook was just soo good, and despite all of its warts in the early days, MacOS X' underpinnings with Darwin were just good enough to swing the decision to use it as a Unix-developers machine. And, it has been solid for 20 years as a platform in that regard, although the writing is definitely on the wall for us Unix geeks who nevertheless carry a Macbook.
If only SGI had made a laptop, and not been wooed away from sanity by the NT freaks. Can you imagine if SGI (Nvidia) had made that laptop before Apple did .. ? I sure can.
"Anyway, have you ever tried to use man? It's fine as long as you know what you are looking for. How would you ever find out the name of command given just the function you wanted to execute? You can't. " One of my gripes with UNIX systems is how opaque they are