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Nice, we need more of these "real world expenses" posts on HN. I wonder how much it would cost to run the same app powered with Java. More? or Less?
Based on the Techempower benchmarks: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/
You can find Java frameworks that are significantly than any of the Python ones. Or you can find ones that are significantly slower.
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Thanks for the compliments! Yes, the server instances are definitely too large. I was previously running on 2 instances that were half the size and ran into some problems which I thought I could fix by increasing specs. Turns out the problems were not related to specs and now I'm stuck with the instance size (on DigitalOcean you can only up-size not down-size) I use Postico too, but don't have enough SQL chops to get…
Hey, good job on your project! The only thing I wanted to say is that the time spent learning a bit of SQL pays off massively. Perhaps something for your todo list :)
Cost of servers and DB don't match DO's current pricing. 4 vCPUs, 8GB RAM, 80GB disk costs $40/month now so two servers alone cost $80 which is higher than $69. Either DO raised pricing or they got some special discount.
Or if you really insist on a VPS, you can get the same configuration with double the disk space at Hetzner for 15.38 per month at Hetzner.
I have a Hetzner VPS and it has been rock-solid.
(I know that they are in Europe, but I assume that there are similarly-priced competitive US counterparts.)
It always makes my head dizzle when I read and hear how much people manage to bloat their stack because they think they need to "scale". I have web applications running that reliably serve 50k users per day and cost me $10/month, running on a single, cheap VPS.
I'v added this paragraph to the article: the servers are oversized for the load we're currently seeing. The reason for that is that we tried to solve a production issue by increasing the server specs. It didn't solve the problem, and now we can't down-size the servers without re-provisioning them ️.
Cost of running it myself on my $30/mo colocation server: $30 oh yeah, and 10$ a year domain fee
5 bucks a month for dns hosting is also quite expensive since most domain hosting offer them for free. Definitely look into autoscaling with AWS for a simple 'poor man's cluster'
I'm very confused what the value add is for this service.
I wonder how much it would cost for the same app, if developed in Java or dotnet core. They could save a good chunk of the 69 USD they spend on Digital Ocean servers. edit : To clarify, What I meant was that to serve 55k users, perhaps using more efficient languages like C# or Java, would allow them to run on lesser spec machines. And as those users scale up, to say a million users a month, perhaps savings would also…
I thought that was going a really different direction than it ended up going.
I read the top item as 6g aka 6,000 and the next (aws) as $60 and they were like "we can likely cut here".... yo you're spending $6k on the other thing cut there first... reading again yeah true.
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The article does not mention video processing or ML. It describes their setup for what they describe as a generic web app.
If you want to provide uninterrupted service to your clients you’ll have to spend some $. You want to have redundancy, machines hosted in different different locations, backup prod servers, monitoring, analysis tools. Even if it is for 1k monthly users, if you want reliability - it will increase the costs.
In my experience, the complicated setups that are justified by the argument of "reliability" have more downtime then a single VPS. The reason is probably that there are more moving parts and more has to be maintained / can go wrong.
These days, a single VPS in the right datacenter has excellent uptime.