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Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by Mandatum »

raihansaputra wrote: post #149
Mandatum wrote: post #140

Australia pays very well and has pretty reasonable overlap hours with much of Asia if you've got family or friends that you want to catch up with virtually. Probably 90% of my colleagues and customers aren't from Australia (including me!) so it's pretty welcoming in of Australia (there's obviously still issues here, but no worse than you'd experience in other Western countries) Please, we need more talent..

But Australia is not making it easy too. I studied and graduated UQ (but only for a year, so no work for me), and a number of my friends did too and continued to work in Australia. But it's not easy. Most job openings prefer PR/citizens. My friends who got a job can only stay for maximum 2/3 years, with uncertainty related to the point and visa grant system. If there's a way for me to work in Australia or even get in…

If you're already qualified, it's been slow but easy for my friends to get sponsored. Yes, it ties you to your employer - but the transfer process between employers is relatively simple since the recent visa changes, but does just seem to take forever (even pre-COVID).

My suggestion when applying to large orgs is to not mention your visa status. It's quite often HR policy not to ask about it until an offer is made, then you've got a lot more leverage.

But yes, getting that initial sponsor is a royal pain in the butt.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by TMWNN »

CarbyAu wrote: post #156
CarbyAu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while back I liked the idea of visiting the US, buying a motorbike and travelling around a bit. But since Trump I really feel on balance that I'd much rather go to many other places in the world instead. Maybe not China/Russia though...

Curious, why the downvotes?

Because you didn't say anything meaningful. Your comment said that you

* maybe possibly might think about someday driving around the US (with the implication that you've never been there)

* but since the current president came into office, despite being completely out of reach of him or his government in your foreign country ...

* ... you've decided to, well, no longer maybe possibly might think about someday driving around the US.

Congratulations.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by Havoc »

dylan604 wrote: post #32
Havoc wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I am a strong supporter of the current administration's restrictions on immigration. He's visiting a conference not immigrating.

Just get a projector and let him present via webcast. Not sure I'd want to risk coming to the US if the authorities might detain me for something I did as a teenager. (not saying this individual did that, but example.)

It's not the same thing. Better to move the conference to a country more conducive to international collab then.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by tehwebguy »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #68
svnpenn wrote: post #39

If you know Daniel, you know that this is one of the stupidest things the US government could possibly do regarding immigration. Daniel is literally one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today. He created cURL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CURL A program so ubiquitous that it comes preinstalled on every mainstream OS, even Windows. It has bindings for Rust, D, PHP and God knows how many other language…

The irony is that whoever designed the US immigration information system are probably using CURL somewhere in their stack, thus Daniel's code.

That’s the headline he needs I think, “Homeland Security relies on his software every day, so why won’t they let him into the country?”

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by orbifold »

foolfoolz wrote: post #56
jacobwilliamroy wrote: post #53

The U.S. has a brain drain problem. This is what I was trying to explain to all my friends who jumped ship after the 2016 presidential election. The only way to save the U.S. is for all the good people to stay but "noooooooooooooooo", all the smart people wanted to run off to canada or germany or whatever. Please come back. It's getting really bad.

your bubble does not represent reality. the u. s. is and has been the destination for brain drain for decades. and our decades long green card application list shows it’s not going anywhere

I think that has reversed for Europeans at least somewhat. I’ve talked to a German very successful Havard Professor, who considered a move back to Germany because of the situation in the US. I personally would have loved to work in the US at some point in the past, now I am not sure it is worth it.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by haunter »

kortilla wrote: post #23
q3k wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd much rather have Daniel's brain here in the US than anywhere else. This sentence strikes me as very odd, and I can't quite put my finger on as to why. Like - why? Why does it matter? Is this some sort of competition? Is this like poaching talent into your company? Do you feel pride from sharing a territory with someone important?

The network effects of intelligent people in your country are positive. On average, you want their voting behavior, their parenting skills, their risk assessments, their economic and tax contributions, and their cultural contributions.

>you want their voting behavior

What does that mean?

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by boomboomsubban »

bfuclusion wrote: post #148
boomboomsubban wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't make sense. Their labor can benefit your economy even if they don't live there, and they can consume your countries goods without living there.

Yes, but the effect is magnified if they're in your country. You would collect local taxes, and the majority of money spent would circulate inside the economy, rather leaving.

That isn't zero sum though. Plus, I doubt Stenberg living in the US would noticeably alter his contributions to the US economy.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by gowld »

svnpenn wrote: post #39

If you know Daniel, you know that this is one of the stupidest things the US government could possibly do regarding immigration. Daniel is literally one of the most brilliant computer programmers alive today. He created cURL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CURL A program so ubiquitous that it comes preinstalled on every mainstream OS, even Windows. It has bindings for Rust, D, PHP and God knows how many other language…

Daniel writes free software. Why would the US care if he is here, for selfish reasons? US can import how work.

Re: Daniel Stenberg (curl) has been denied entry to the US for 870 days

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Post by gowld »

wenc wrote: post #155
jdright wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funny thing is that if he had gone work as a temporary worker in Canada, two years would have given him permanent resident status. Then two more years he can become a citizen, then he would be free to enter USA. This would be faster and better solution overall. But anyways, I don't think it is ever worth the trouble going there.

Hmm, becoming Canadian just to enter the USA seems like a difficult and roundabout way of going about it.... I'm reading Daniel's page and it seems to me that a number of commenters here are confusing his intent, which is "visiting", not "immigration". I've noticed that in the US, people tend to use the word "immigrate" for anyone trying to get into the country, whereas the word immigrate has a much more specific mea…

Has Daniel applied for a non-ESTA visa? How long has that been waiting?
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