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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Alir3z4 »

macspoofing wrote: post #210
Alir3z4 wrote: post #198

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From maintainer prospective he has gotten thumb down, whether it's "boo to to maintainer or to the law". That may not be the actual case but the majority of people surprised here clearly shows they're not aware or don't want to see the other side of the table. I agree, Iran is really threatening US: https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/... how Iran dares to put the country next to US military b…

You're throwing the kitchen sink and arguing against the current reality. Sure. You can do that if you want. But whether you or I dislike the current state of things, the reality is that things are the way they are. United States exists in the present form, with alliances in the middle-east and as a nation-state Iran can choose to engage with it through confrontation or not. Iran has chosen consistently to do it with…

I disagree with the statement that "all is on you is caused by you" (_or maybe it's not your direct point_) although that's what it is in reality when dealing with bullying, from the bully point of view.

I agree completely that countries are not bound by law or any centralize law or government/authority (_Jokes on you UN_), I don't mean countries having human emotions, after all, they have their interest, as long as their interest is met, they do what they can do, be it US, UK, Iran or any other country, even their mutual alliance is for their own interest (_which could be with compromises as well, such as JCPOA accepted by Iran_)

As an ordinary citizen, I'm outraged by the situation (_that's so far I can do_) and how it has affected my life and loved ones. Was I looking at Iran government and say "why our gov is not friend and doesn't do what they say so it's could be blue sky and peaceful life?", I did but later looking more closely and looking at events and see how thing turned out to be it was clear I can't say "Iran/we deserve it because we don't do what they telling us to do."

Like many others I had great hopes with JCPOA and I witnessed how it fallen apart by US unilaterally. Tell me honestly, buying commercial airplanes risks the global security while people in Iran have to fly with +40 years old commercial planes ?

> Arab-states and Israel is a direct response to Iran as well.

Yes, exactly, isn't nice that both countries joined together to counter the "bogeyman" that has been created ?

If I keep telling you Mexico will someday take all American jobs and all the drug dealers are Mexicans, eventually someone gonna take advantage of the situation and gonna come and say, "let's build a wall" and many will vote for him to do that.

The greatest mistakes Iranian did was to do a revolution and have new government, suddenly all the universe hated them and we have our neighbor knocking on the door and invade us :D

I agree with you, it's unfair, it's what it is and how it is right now in the current time and all I'm saying is, well, it's unfair and I hate it that many people point out "If Iran doesn't like it, they can change and submit", niet, it hasn't ever happened and will not happen.

The oppressed will be always to blame by the _oppressor_. Fun fact, "De oppresso liber", taught to 65th Airborne Special Forces Brigade of Iran by their long ago American friend and has been with them ever since.

Take care you good sir ;)

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by tgv »

Hamcrest wrote: post #215
philistine wrote: post #185

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I would be careful of using semi-democracy as a word. Democracy is power by the people, and the Iranian theocracy is ultimately not a democracy. There are too many caveats, too many powers under the authority of religious unelected people to call it a democracy. It’s a theocracy through and through.

What country doesn't have caveats to its democracy tho? I live in the UK and there are far too many caveats to call it a democracy IMO. At the end of the day it is subjective.

This is getting absurd: a representative democracy as many European countries have is not a close relation to the GP's "semi democratic" Iran. It's as "subjective" as being hit with a brick.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by eternalban »

wheels wrote: post #76
rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

IRI is soviet in structure. Ignore the clerical garb and titles and just draw the diagrams, and substitute Plato’s Republic for Das Kapital.

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Post by CobrastanJorji »

notsureaboutpg wrote: post #159
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #121

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That's ridiculous. The Supreme Leader's Council of Guardians personally certify any and all Presidential candidates. They may choose to allow candidates from other factions from time to time for political reasons, but they're still choosing. In a Democracy, the leader don't get to decide who is allowed to run for office. And while we're talking about him, the "Supreme Leader" serves a lifetime term. They personally a…

If anyone is interested in a different perspective (the Iranians you will interact with online know English, have affinity for the West, etc. These are not representative of majority of Iranians, just like many Americans aren't represented by the Twitteratti for example), there is a book by Hermann Hesse called The Glass Bead Game, where humanity has undergone a devastating Third World War and in attempt to keep it f…

The West is quite familiar with the concept of the "Philosopher King." I agree that if you assume a perfectly moral, incorruptible dictator, then they are a perfect government. It's certainly better than democracy.

It's also impossible to achieve, though, which makes it a bit moot. No single person is guaranteed to stay free of corruption, especially when granted tremendous, unchecked power. Creating a system that relies on this not happening is not a good idea. It's just too huge a gamble.

Also, comparing Ayatollah Khamenei, a formerly elected politician who controls around $100 billion of quasi-private wealth, to a council of ascetic monks, is a bit of a stretch.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by dudul »

duxup wrote: post #217
dudul wrote: post #172

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You asked how the comment that "it is the problem with detailed bio" related to the story. I'm not saying it's bad or not, people are free to share what they want, but had the PR author not done that, the PR would have been merged, that's all. Not sure what you mean about the name.

I think his name might give his background away.

I see. I don't know if the exact policy the maintainer is referring to is only for "people from Israel" or "jewish people in general". If the former, the contributor could be jewish without living in Israel.

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Post by LegitShady »

navidr wrote: post #146
LegitShady wrote: post #137

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Which religious council did Bernie have to be approved by? Or was it a political party? Your analogy is off base.

Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media. Noam Chomsky

I notice you didn't answer the question.

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Post by mullingitover »

Ancapistani wrote: post #183
mullingitover wrote: post #174

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Let's be honest, the reason Iran is a pariah state isn't because it's a repressive, tyrannical regime, it's because it doesn't fall in line with the US/UK demands. Saudi Arabia is worse, and their leaders get to hold hands with US presidents while they go for a stroll. Iran could abolish all elections, create a Saudi-style dictatorship, become even more of a human rights abuser, but if it privatized its oil industry…

I don't disagree with you - but I also don't see anyone arguing otherwise.

I see a lot of commenters railing against Iran's lack of perfect, free and fair elections, so just wanted to point out that that has nothing to do with their geopolitical problems. The world realpolitik game doesn't actually care if you're a human rights-abusing, tyrannical hellscape as long as you play ball with the oil companies.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by macspoofing »

Alir3z4 wrote: post #221
macspoofing wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're throwing the kitchen sink and arguing against the current reality. Sure. You can do that if you want. But whether you or I dislike the current state of things, the reality is that things are the way they are. United States exists in the present form, with alliances in the middle-east and as a nation-state Iran can choose to engage with it through confrontation or not. Iran has chosen consistently to do it with…

I disagree with the statement that "all is on you is caused by you" (_or maybe it's not your direct point_) although that's what it is in reality when dealing with bullying, from the bully point of view. I agree completely that countries are not bound by law or any centralize law or government/authority (_Jokes on you UN_), I don't mean countries having human emotions, after all, they have their interest, as long as…

>Tell me honestly, buying commercial airplanes risks the global security while people in Iran have to fly with +40 years old commercial planes ?

You're focused on what is and isn't fair. But fairness is subjective in a complicated world and everyone has their view of fairness. Not everything Iran got, they deserved, but Iran is where it is due to their choices.

But I look at it from a level of pragmatism. The prosperity of US and its people isn't dependent on good relations with Iran. On the other hand, the prosperity of Iran and its people is dependent on not being antagonistic to the United States. That they continue to be, guarantees that Iranian people will not able to fully participate in the global economy, and may even lead to armed conflict or war, with the surrounding Arab states or Israel or America. In other words, Iran's actions led to Iranians flying on 40+ year old commercial planes, while Americans are flying modern Boeing and Airbus jets.

>Like many others I had great hopes with JCPOA and I witnessed how it fallen apart by US unilaterally.

That was unfortunate. Obama made two bad calculations:

1) that he could push through the deal without broad internal political consensus. He knew he could never get the deal passed through Congress, but he went along with it anyway because ...

2) he gambled his successor would be a moderate Republican or Hillary and therefore would uphold it. Unfortunately for him and Hillary and Iran, Trump won.

In this case, Iran made a mistake as well. Iran came into the negotiation trying to give up as little as possible. Specifically Iran wanted to limit the deal to their nuclear weapons program (and in a way, that they could restart it after the term of the JCPOA was up), without impacting their broader geopolitical goals. They succeeded in doing that. But in doing so they made it far easier for American hawks, Israel, and regional Arab states to pressure Trump to rip up the deal.

>Take care you good sir ;)

You too. It's a big world, and us little people can only be spectators.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by smnrchrds »

tssva wrote: post #139
wheels wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

An Iranian wrestler was just given two death sentences for participating in peaceful protests regarding economic policies, so someone being jailed or executed for merging a GitHub PR is not wildly out of possibility.

You are leaving out a very important piece of detail. The reason he was sentenced to death is that he was convicted of murdering someone during the protest. You can argue that he is not the murderer and it was pinned on him. You might be even right. But it is undeniable that someone was murdered in the protest, and that his sentence was because he was convicted of his murder. Had there not been a dead body on the ground, he would not have received a death sentence.
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