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The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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"Don't go outside, you'll get COVID", sounds more and more like horrible advice. Before knowing the virus died in sunlight, I still couldn't fathom why people were avoiding going out to parks and stuff. It was totally non sequitor.

By going outside you are likely to spread the virus.

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Noteworthy that this is in combination with anti-viral drugs at hospital admission: hydroxychloroquine (400 mg every 12 hours on the first day, and 200 mg every 12 hours for the following 5 days), azithromycin (500 mg orally for 5 days). Regardless, I'm going to assume this means being outside and getting sun is good for me.

All patients received hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, i.e. the control group also, meaning the difference in outcome between the intervention and control groups is not due to these drugs.

The American media would have you believe that hydroxychloroquine and Z-packs are completely ineffective. Are we still in the "we don't know" stage? Is there any conclusive data to show that it helps/hurts/or does nothing in the beginning/middle/end stages of infection?

Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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Noteworthy that this is in combination with anti-viral drugs at hospital admission: hydroxychloroquine (400 mg every 12 hours on the first day, and 200 mg every 12 hours for the following 5 days), azithromycin (500 mg orally for 5 days). Regardless, I'm going to assume this means being outside and getting sun is good for me.

I always assumed getting sun(in moderation) was good for oneself. As much as I dislike the heat in general, I always have way more energy after spending a few hours in the sun. I assume(perhaps incorrectly) this was due to a Vitamin D bump.

Further, I've known two people in my life who get weird skin issues if they stay out of the sun too long. My wife is one of them! Really weird, considering how damaging the sun is considered.

Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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"Don't go outside, you'll get COVID", sounds more and more like horrible advice. Before knowing the virus died in sunlight, I still couldn't fathom why people were avoiding going out to parks and stuff. It was totally non sequitor.

The concern was presumably crowds at parks. Viruses take a while to die from sunlight; it's not going to save you from breathing in the droplets from someone standing right next to you. (Not to mention choke points like public bathrooms, or in places like NYC, residential elevators to get to them.)

Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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Noteworthy that this is in combination with anti-viral drugs at hospital admission: hydroxychloroquine (400 mg every 12 hours on the first day, and 200 mg every 12 hours for the following 5 days), azithromycin (500 mg orally for 5 days). Regardless, I'm going to assume this means being outside and getting sun is good for me.

Azithromycin is a common antibiotic, not an anti-viral drug. This is an important distinction. Also hydroxychloroquine is an anti-malarial drug, which is also not an anti-viral.

Hydroxychloroquine is a zinc ionophore which helps zinc get into the cells in your lungs and slows the viral replication. It was not designed to be used this way, it just happens to work. This is mostly useful before your viral load is high. Same goes for Quercetin, also a zinc ionophore. They are good proactive measures to slow down the viral transcription before you reach a critical stage. It won't help everyone, especially if given late in their infection and especially if their immune system is compromised or otherwise dysfunctional.

Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

#17

"Don't go outside, you'll get COVID", sounds more and more like horrible advice. Before knowing the virus died in sunlight, I still couldn't fathom why people were avoiding going out to parks and stuff. It was totally non sequitor.

I got one that is still in effect in Michigan-

"Gyms are closed" (but bars and casinos are open)

A virus that kills old and _obese_ people, and you are shutting down the gym?

If anything I hope Coronavirus shifts politicians from business leaders to scientists.

Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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And that's why I've been taking Vitamin D pills for the past 6 months. (It's been suspected for some time to have an effect) This doesn't mean go outside and get covid.

You can always go outside to locations that aren't crowded.

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"Don't go outside, you'll get COVID", sounds more and more like horrible advice. Before knowing the virus died in sunlight, I still couldn't fathom why people were avoiding going out to parks and stuff. It was totally non sequitor.

I got one that is still in effect in Michigan- "Gyms are closed" (but bars and casinos are open) A virus that kills old and _obese_ people, and you are shutting down the gym? If anything I hope Coronavirus shifts politicians from business leaders to scientists.

It’s more likely to kill old and obese people, but there are still plenty of rarer cases of harm to younger fitter people (eg triathletes on oxygen post-infection). It’s not binary.

Re: The First Randomized Controlled Trial on Vitamin D and Covid-19

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the parks have people in them not wearing masks?

You don't need masks if you are maintaining distance of 6 feet. Masks are for situations where distance can not be maintained such as trains and stores.

You need masks indoors even if you are able to maintain a distance of 6 feet.
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