Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli? • Hacker News Board

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by dudul » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

anonu wrote: post #85

Couple ways to read this: 1. repo owner is justified. Understandable from the lens of living under an oppressive regime that could use anything to justify your imprisonment or whatnot... Even if he has good intentions, fear of disproportionate response keeps him from collaboration 2. repo owner is just not being friendly. The risk is so minuscule here that any intelligent person would just merge a PR. After all, they…

> The risk is so minuscule here that any intelligent person would just merge a PR.

Out of curiosity, have you ever lived under a repressive regime? Because I have, and even when "the risk is minuscule", when you know what could happen you tend to think twice.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by andruby » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:00 PM UTC

bitdizzy wrote: post #113

caseysoftware wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has nothing do with if you can or not. It depends on if you do something to attract their negative attention. Once you're being "investigated" anything you've said or done, your entire history is up for grabs. If that's not enough, the "investigators" will create the "evidence" or find "witnesses" who can claim you've said/done horrible* things so they can quickly handle the punishment. Astute observers will see s…

> Astute observers will see some parallels with other groups. I'm a little naive and curious about this. The examples that come to mind are HR departments I've worked with. What were you thinking of?

Godwin’s law is the first thing that I thought of.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by thrwyoilarticle » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:01 PM UTC

newswasboring wrote: post #56

Alir3z4 wrote: post #47

I never knew about such law. For those who have Pikachu eyes now, or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment, I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral sanctions imposed by US on Iran and Iranian national globally and you'd see how you'll get a taste of freedom and liberty and some prison time to sweeten the deal by US. If there's #…

I get why people should not thumbs down and the whole tough guy angle, but I have never heard US putting someone in jail for a merged PR. Many of the big open source projects are american citizen lead and they accept PRs from all around the world.

Sergey Aleynikov's treatment wasn't far off

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by acqq » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #120

wheels wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

Iran isn't a dictatorship, but it does issue the death penalty for quite minor offenses. Iranians have been sentenced to death for protesting, for drinking, for adultery.

> Iranians have been sentenced to death for protesting, for drinking, for adultery.

And also...

https://m.dw.com/en/iran-defends-execution-of-gay-people/a-4...

“Homosexuality violates Islamic Law in Iran and can be punishable by death. Several thousand people have been executed for homosexuality since the 1979 Islamic revolution, according to some rights activists.”

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by AdmiralAsshat » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

yiddishe-kop wrote: post #157

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #4

I would have said "Jerusalem" as a location could lend some ambiguity as to whether the committing user is Israeli or Palestinian, but ah...his username and profile picture certainly leaves nothing to the imagination.

Hi Author of the PR here. Would you submit a complaint to GitHub? What should I do?

Hello!

I don't think GitHub would be any help here, as I imagine the author is worried about personal retribution from the Iranian government, not the US govt. He is probably right to be concerned. I'm afraid there's probably not much we can do here.

FWIW, as a Palestinian, I think this law is idiotic. FOSS does not discriminate on geographical origins, particularly when any submitted code can be freely audited.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by SpaceRaccoon » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

averysmallbird wrote: post #114

wheels wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

Whether the civil administration is elected is irrelevant to the threat that this person faces, although to be sure, the Guardian Council dictates who is an acceptable candidate. Rouhani does not have control over the IRGC, which has engaged in a years long campaign of arrests and threats of software developers with links to the West, e.g. Arash Zad, Naranji, and, most recently, Behdad Esfahbod, among others. Once in…

> Behdad Esfahbod

Funny you mention him. He showed up on the linked thread, posting the final comment before it was locked:

> Just merge it.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by rockinghigh » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:05 PM UTC

wheels wrote: post #76

rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

> the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win.

Democracies don't have supreme leaders. Are you insinuating Iran is not an authoritarian regime where torture exists?

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Alir3z4 » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:08 PM UTC

macspoofing wrote: post #143

Alir3z4 wrote: post #47

I never knew about such law. For those who have Pikachu eyes now, or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment, I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral sanctions imposed by US on Iran and Iranian national globally and you'd see how you'll get a taste of freedom and liberty and some prison time to sweeten the deal by US. If there's #…

>or whoever gave thumbs down on the maintainer comment To be fair, who knows what the 'thumbs down' emoji is meant to represent in context and probably varies from each person who flagged it as such. It could mean 'boo maintainer', or it could be 'boo to the law and circumstance'. It's just an emoji. >I dare you to do a single tiny transaction with Iran or an Iranian citizen which would be in violation of unilateral…

From maintainer prospective he has gotten thumb down, whether it's "boo to to maintainer or to the law". That may not be the actual case but the majority of people surprised here clearly shows they're not aware or don't want to see the other side of the table.

I agree, Iran is really threatening US: https://lipstick-and-war-crimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/... how Iran dares to put the country next to US military bases ?

Jokes aside.

A simple map could clearly shows, US is thousands of miles away from Iran. What they do here ? This place was fine and long before any US warship show up in the Persian Gulf.

Was it Islamic Republic in 1953 when US (CIA) and Britain toppled democratically elected prime minister Mosadeq ?

Or how about Iran-Iraq war were Iraq was supplied with intels, luxury weapons, naval and air help from US or many other country and being funded billions to continue the war, even French pilot flying their airplanes and Germany supplying them chemical weapons to be used on Iranian civil and US calling Saddam "Our Man in Baqdad", he was the sweetheart until he dared to do something US didn't like and you see what happened to Saddam and great people of Iraq being mascaraed and bombed to ashes. (_Saddam dared to attack Kuwait to take on oil fields because he felt that war with Iran caused tons of financial damages to the country so he thought he deserved the money back from the Arab World, US didn't like it and ..._)

Umm, how about Iran and US cooperation to topple Taliban government ? Wasn't that a token of "deescalation", that ended for Iran being called "Axis of Evil" by George W. Bush.

How about assassination of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani ? was that a token of friendship by US? He was carrying a meeting response from supreme leader for Saudi Arabia for deescalation and lowering the tension between both countries.

For US, a country is either a client state or "let's give them a taste of democracy and libation!"

Just because US can bully countries around, it doesn't mean it's a tough guy and we have seen it several times.

I hope one day, me and you don't need to have such conversations, ordinary people that only want to have a simple life, food on the table and a peaceful environment where any person on earth can be free from damages caused by others on them, well that's a wishful thinking, but I like to believe someday that would happen.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by newswasboring » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:12 PM UTC

Alir3z4 wrote: post #144

gruez wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>1. Torturing is illegal and prohibited by constitution in Iran. A single sign of torture can easily make a judge dismiss the trial. uhh... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24365648

He has killed a police officer and his brothers would have done if they could. The same protests that was caused by US to make civil unrest and riot to topple the government I'm sure the "anonymous" sources have a lot of hard evidence to say he has been tortured. The same kind of evidence (excel files) they provided to show Iranian death over COVID19 were many times more than official numbers

Are iranian court rulings open for public reading? If yes, at least we can look at the evidence being presented.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by free_rms » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 5:14 PM UTC

msla wrote: post #178

free_rms wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's awfully suspicious how all of the other candidates except Warren dropped out and endorsed Biden overnight, right? Meanwhile, Warren, who was presumed to draw votes from Bernie, was all of a sudden awash in SuperPAC money despite her campaign having no chance. Almost like someone made a few phone calls.

"Whataboutism" is not an argument, and neither are vague innuendos.

I was specifically responding to a comment talking about the 2020 primaries, and I talked about the 2020 primaries.

It's really an amazing system we have. The government and media tell you how free you are and how wicked all these other people are, and everyone just eats it up. Anyone who questions is ostracized and sidelined. Way more effective than a brute dictatorship.