Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli? • Hacker News Board

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Ancapistani » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:54 PM UTC

wheels wrote: post #76

rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

Iran is absolutely a dictatorship.

The president is nominally democratically elected, but they are subordinate to the Supreme Leader. The Supreme Leader is appointed by and subject to the Assembly of Experts... but half of that body is subject to the whim of the Supreme Leader.

At best, it's "a dictatorship with extra steps".

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:55 PM UTC

rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by Ancapistani » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:55 PM UTC

mullingitover wrote: post #174

wheels wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

Let's be honest, the reason Iran is a pariah state isn't because it's a repressive, tyrannical regime, it's because it doesn't fall in line with the US/UK demands. Saudi Arabia is worse, and their leaders get to hold hands with US presidents while they go for a stroll. Iran could abolish all elections, create a Saudi-style dictatorship, become even more of a human rights abuser, but if it privatized its oil industry…

I don't disagree with you - but I also don't see anyone arguing otherwise.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by panpanna » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

eternalban wrote: post #74

newswasboring wrote: post #52

Edit: Sorry I completely misread it. I thought he said just "merged" it instead of encouraging "merge" it. Still interesting to learn about Behdad though, cool stuff about localization and language support. Interestingly merged by Behdad Esfahbod who is also iranian. He was even arrested by the iranian government in the past > Esfahbod claims that he was arrested by Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps intelligence ech…

https://medium.com/@behdadesfahbod/if-you-read-one-thing-fro...

So the Iranian government had access to a Facebook employees credentials for around a week?

Oh, that can't be good...

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by philistine » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:56 PM UTC

wheels wrote: post #140

LegitShady wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All presidential candidates must be approved by a religious council. It's democracy pastiche at best

That was where the "semi-" in "semi-democratic" came from in my original comment. It's in ways similar to Hong Kong's council elections.

I would be careful of using semi-democracy as a word. Democracy is power by the people, and the Iranian theocracy is ultimately not a democracy. There are too many caveats, too many powers under the authority of religious unelected people to call it a democracy. It’s a theocracy through and through.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by reificator » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

throw_m239339 wrote: post #180

reificator wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That developer made himself a target for retaliation the moment he started using github and commit code there. Spare me your sarcasms. And if you are toeing the line with what's acceptable, increasing your exposure by even a little could cross that line. Spare me your lack of empathy.

> Spare me your lack of empathy. This has nothing to with empathy, you can't be on Github and discriminate PR submitters because they are Israeli. Pretty sure it violates github TOS.

> This has nothing to with empathy, you can't be on Github and discriminate PR submitters because they are Israeli. Pretty sure it violates github TOS.

That is a hard decision.

If the maintainer denies this PR for being from Israel, you're pretty sure it violates ToS, which in the worst case could result in their account being suspended.

If the maintainer knowingly or unknowingly accepts a PR from Israel, the very real worst case is that they could be executed.

I'm not sure which decision I'd make if I were in their shoes. I see your point now.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by flyingfences » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:57 PM UTC

School-Cotton wrote: post #173

hinkley wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole thread I’m wondering how many respondents are American. We really have no room to talk right now. Vote, for the love of god and your own mothers.

I'll bite. Who do you suggest we vote for that will stop these practices?

Dr. Jorgensen

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by arghwhat » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #29

rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

> no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea If there were a vibrant industrial or creative community in North Korea to interact with, I’d see the light in this argument. But there isn’t. The only entity to contract with is the state. That makes the comparison difficult. Cuba, on the other hand...

> If there were a vibrant industrial or creative community in North Korea to interact with, I’d see the light in this argument. But there isn’t.

This is entirely false. For example, North Korea has, believe it or not, a booming software development outsourcing industry (mostly apps I think). Their labor is dirt cheap and they're apparently not half bad at what they do.

I believe the same goes for any other type of labor: If you're willing to violate trade sanctions, you can get anything from there for a penny.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by d0100 » Thu, Sep 03, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

mathieuh wrote: post #11

colordrops wrote: post #7

This seems to be just an individual being passive aggressive and not some international incident.

Who's being passive-aggressive? The Iranian guy added commits to the PR, it seems he was going to merge it and realised he probably shouldn't

> I hope one day your country removes this restriction, just like my country has never put such restrictions.

This reads to me as passive-aggressive

To add insult, a superficial search for Iran sanctions show that Israel is pushing hard for US sanctions on Iran [0][1]

So even if Israel hasn't sanctioned Iran, they sure seem to want the US as a proxy sanctionner

[0](https://www.haaretz.com/misc/tags/TAG-iran-sanctions-1.55989...) [1](https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/iran-sanctions/)