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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by renewiltord »

IngvarLynn wrote: post #68
Navarr wrote: post #22

How does this work considering PHP is heavily made up of code from Zend (which was an Israeli company) Can Iranian-built websites not use PHP?

There is no rule of law in dictatorship so your question makes no sense. The proper question would be "What are my chances of being repressed given my connections to the opposion|ruling elites?".

This is the only right answer here at this time. If you haven't lived in these conditions you don't really know how it works. "Plausible deniability" does not work. "Citing which laws make this legal" do not work. It doesn't actually matter whether or not Zend is Israeli or whatever. Forming some coherent reductio ad absurdum (ah ha! But if we followed your law then it is clear we would not be able to function at all! But we are able to function, a contradiction! This must mean your law is not to be followed!) will only welcome you to jail.

What you do is stay far from Sauron's eye. And if you're under Sauron's eye, you make sure you look loyal.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

#92

Post by dudul »

duxup wrote: post #53
mothsonasloth wrote: post #30

This is the problem with the internet now, profile pics, egotistical bio summaries and emojis. It was more fun when it was anonymous and the person you were talking to could have been a 43 year old neo nazi with blue hair, but their code or stuff was good, so you didn't have that getting in the way of you.

How does that apply to the story?

The PR author has their location in their Github profile. Had they not filled this part, the maintainer probably would have just merged the PR.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by tgv »

wheels wrote: post #76
rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

If it quacks ...

The "supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate" may not always win, but he has to obey the supreme leader and his gang anyway. It's pretty close to a dictatorship, even if it's usually couched as "theocracy".

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by [deleted] »

wheels wrote: post #76
rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by [deleted] »

Darmody wrote: post #82

If you think this is stupid, just think about all the times western politicians have made laws and rules for tech stuff they don't understand. Some years ago, the CEO and Chairman of Telefonica/Movistar, who should have a minimum understanding of how the internet works, said Google should pay them money because, and I quote him, Telefonica had all the infrastructure, the customer support and Google only had algorithm…

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Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by duxup »

dudul wrote: post #92
duxup wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does that apply to the story?

The PR author has their location in their Github profile. Had they not filled this part, the maintainer probably would have just merged the PR.

Is that bad to share that info?

And that aside, what about the name?

Going this direction seems like a very strange aside to a situation where the law is clearly bonkers...

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by throw_m239339 »

rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

> All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now.

He is using a language that was mainly developed by Israeli and has Israeli on its core team, this is a flimsy excuse not to merge a PR. Laravele itself probably already has Israeli contributors too. This argument makes no sense. If he is using PHP and Laravele he is allegedly already in danger by your logic, since using code and libraries authored by Israeli. This isn't a github or a git issue, at all.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by steventhedev »

Weren't Iranian devs banned from github last year[0]?

That aside, I dont see any first hand source for the repo owner being Iranian, only speculation in the comments. The situation is sad, but a reasonable response to a PR that has legal issues. I don't think there's much intelligent discussion that can be had about this.

[0]: https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/29/github-ban-sanctioned-coun...

EDIT: github doesn't show profile location on mobile. My bad.

Re: Iranian law prohibits merge of PR from Israeli?

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Post by kapitalx »

wheels wrote: post #76
rgbrenner wrote: post #10

All the people arguing semantics when the author lives in a repressive dictatorship that would literally torture you for a confession and then execute you for it.. if anyone EVER comes by this PR even a decade from now. Meanwhile, no one here would even think of violating US export controls against North Korea... when the consequences are likely just prison time. Armchair tough guys.

Iran is repressive, and fraught with problems, but it's not a dictatorship. There's a reasonably intricate bureaucracy, much of which is semi-democratic: for example, the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win. The current president, Rouhani, is a moderate, and is not especially liked by the hard-liners. It's pretty crazy that your comment comparing it to North Korea and insinuating that…

> the supreme leader's preferred presidential candidate doesn't always win

Candidates for president must be "approved" by the Guardian Council. Supreme leader hand picks half of the Guardian Council, the other half is selected by Majlis. But majlis nominees are "approved" by the guardian council. The circular dependency was seeded by supreme leader.

If A = B & B = C Then A = C. He hand picks the nominees for president.

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