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I'm sure they'll stop all their illegal surveillance any day now.
Watching_the_watchmen_recursive has detected a stackoverflow and was aborted.
A core dump has been created and can be viewed at constituion.hex.
Time to give a massive apology and a full pardon to Mr Snowden then.
Having read Barton Gellman’s book that describes and alludes to some of the details of what were in the actual (never published) Snowden files, I do not believe that the US IC would let him continue to live, even if he were fully pardoned. I doubt it will ever be safe for him in the US again, despite his legal status.
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Now would be about the best time for him to make that move. With elections upcoming and all that.
Trump's pardoning of Snowden would lose more presidential election support than it would win. Sure, there are plenty of people who would support the decision to pardon Snowden, but I can't see them being the type of people to vote for Trump based on that. Existing Trump supporters, on the other hand, I could see "punishing" Trump for his weakness in pardoning a "traitor who fled to Russia".
Since there are multiple comments about how the US government must/should pardon Snowden now, I'd like to make a top level comment to clarify some things about how this does not obligate the government to change his status. 1. The court only found that a single program exposed by Snowden was illegal. Snowden released a bunch of other information that was a violation of the NDA he signed when he was given a security c…
I think this is true and that is why fleeing to Russia was the correct choice. Because the whistle blower channels don't work.
Since there are multiple comments about how the US government must/should pardon Snowden now, I'd like to make a top level comment to clarify some things about how this does not obligate the government to change his status. 1. The court only found that a single program exposed by Snowden was illegal. Snowden released a bunch of other information that was a violation of the NDA he signed when he was given a security c…
I think this is true and that is why fleeing to Russia was the correct choice. Because the whistle blower channels don't work.
I doubt he is happy with having to live in Russia - the main benefactor of his leaks. It's impossible to imagine that he is able to reconcile his hatred of US spying with the malicious actions of the government he now relies on for protection.
...and that's the ultimate crux of this whole thing. When you go up against the US government, you have to ask yourself - is there any major world power out there that's better?
I don't think he asked himself that question.
Will Trump pardon Snowden? that will be interesting.
Will Trump pardon Snowden? that will be interesting.
Trump's base is very pro-military and a lot of them believe that Snowden put military lives at risk (and also confuse him with Chelsea Manning / Julian Assange). So I don't see how that could ever happen.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now would be about the best time for him to make that move. With elections upcoming and all that.
Trump's pardoning of Snowden would lose more presidential election support than it would win. Sure, there are plenty of people who would support the decision to pardon Snowden, but I can't see them being the type of people to vote for Trump based on that. Existing Trump supporters, on the other hand, I could see "punishing" Trump for his weakness in pardoning a "traitor who fled to Russia".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is true and that is why fleeing to Russia was the correct choice. Because the whistle blower channels don't work.
Russia was probably his only choice. Every other country would have extradited him. I doubt he is happy with having to live in Russia - the main benefactor of his leaks. It's impossible to imagine that he is able to reconcile his hatred of US spying with the malicious actions of the government he now relies on for protection. ...and that's the ultimate crux of this whole thing. When you go up against the US governmen…
Clapper lied, on camera, under oath, admitted it and has had zero consequences. Kept his job. Has not had to defend a prosecution. Now he's using is former position and influence to get rich. It's lawbreaking from the top. Nothing to discuss about it.
Sadly the rule of law and equality before it is a thing that needs to be re-established.