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Re: iPhone audio detectable with AM radio

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He says in one of the comments that he was able to get a signal you could hear from around 20 feet away.

I suspect that’s unlikely from my own experiences on this stuff. Perhaps 20-40cm is more likely.

Why would you assume that his experiences and yours are the same?

Re: iPhone audio detectable with AM radio

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that’s unlikely from my own experiences on this stuff. Perhaps 20-40cm is more likely.

If you are disregarding that detail of the story, why not dismiss the author outright?

I am disregarding the whole thing. The author knows nothing of EMC. This is expected at close quarters.

Re: iPhone audio detectable with AM radio

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This is not surprising. We’ve been using AM and FM radios to debug circuits for decades. They can pick up oscillations and instabilities. But the range is centimetres at best. So much so the antenna gets used as a fairly directional probe.

In a later tweet he says the signal is pretty strong and that he could detect it from 6 feet away

I doubt it. That probably wouldn’t pass the EMC testing. Exaggerating I suspect to back up the claim.

Really why is this a surprise when you can hear the phone blips and buzzes from the RF induced pickup on shitty hifi equipment.

Re: iPhone audio detectable with AM radio

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect that’s unlikely from my own experiences on this stuff. Perhaps 20-40cm is more likely.

Why would you assume that his experiences and yours are the same?

It’s physics. There is EMC testing done on these devices. There is little opinion involved in such matters.

Re: iPhone audio detectable with AM radio

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Wow. I wonder how far from the phone this signal could be detected.

Just a few meters, as per the article. I'm guessing if you can't hear it on the iPhone's speaker, it won't be audible on AM radio either.

Correct. Although it’s possible on older handsets with 3.5 jack that the audio amplifier in the handset itself is possible to receive. I’m not sure about lightning.

But I very much doubt at the stated range. The EMC guys would be all over that.

Re: iPhone audio detectable with AM radio

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This is not surprising. We’ve been using AM and FM radios to debug circuits for decades. They can pick up oscillations and instabilities. But the range is centimetres at best. So much so the antenna gets used as a fairly directional probe.

In a later tweet he says the signal is pretty strong and that he could detect it from 6 feet away

Going to have to call bullshit on this. If it was detectable at that range then he has a faulty phone. The iPhone is classified as an emitter and so it needs to undergo rather strict FCC testing to ensure that it does not emit outside of certain frequencies and at specific power levels. The device would NEVER have been approved if it emitted at this level into bands licensed to other uses.
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