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Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by stan_rogers »

bscphil wrote: post #124
parsimo2010 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also anecdotally, I'd say the only things that would make a clearly noticeable performance difference to a layperson or casual computer user from the last few years would be: 1. If they previously had less than 4GB of memory and were often swapping 2. If they previously had a spinning HDD and moved to an SSD 3. If they previously had a really low end CPU like something outside the Core range, and moved to an i5 or be…

> If they previously had less than 4GB of memory and were often swapping These days, it's more like if they previously had less than 12 GB of memory and were often swapping. Having a few dozen tabs open isn't that uncommon and interactive websites (Twitter, Gmail, Google Docs) can use an enormous amount of RAM.

Having a few dozen tabs open is actually incredibly weird outside of this little world.

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by varbhat »

userbinator wrote: post #146
varbhat wrote: post #2

intel also has new LOGO .

The "flat" trend has infected it too, and it's unfortunate because the new logos look more like something from the fashion/cosmetics industry than a serious semiconductor company. ...still not as bad as what happened to Atmel's logo, however.

what happened to Atmel's logo ?

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by fomine3 »

segfaultbuserr wrote: post #80
parsimo2010 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also anecdotally, I'd say the only things that would make a clearly noticeable performance difference to a layperson or casual computer user from the last few years would be: 1. If they previously had less than 4GB of memory and were often swapping 2. If they previously had a spinning HDD and moved to an SSD 3. If they previously had a really low end CPU like something outside the Core range, and moved to an i5 or be…

And now there's a new category. 4. If they previously had an early generation of Core CPU like a Sandy Bridge that suffered great performance hit due to vulnerability, and then moved to an Ice Lake, or better, an AMD...

This is big factor for performance degradation, especially prior Ivy Bridge era.

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by fomine3 »

whynotminot wrote: post #40
dougmwne wrote: post #21

From a quick read, in case anyone is wondering, this is built on the latest-gen 10nm process which is a refinement on the previous 10nm process. Intel's goal was to focus on clock increases, so the instruction per clock is apparently not much changed. From looking at the tables, the whole line of processors appear to have nicely improved one core max clock speeds, which should hopefully help single core performance,…

FWIW, I upgraded to one of the 2020 MBP Ice Lake machines. I've seen much, much improved CPU and GPU performance that makes my daily life better. I think much of the increase comes from going from dual core to quad core and perhaps not as much the single core gains, but still, I'd be curious what kind of software he's deving to not see much improvement. If he's doing compiling or web-dev transpiling kinda stuff, I'm…

It's not well known due to Intel's fab failure, but Ice Lake is huge improvement for IPC and perf/watt.

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by fomine3 »

btian wrote: post #51
zionic wrote: post #15

The contrast in community enthusiasm between this and Nvidia's 3xxx announcement could not be more severe.

Well, nVidia is selling a new GPU that's faster than 2080 Ti for $500, then 3090 that's faster and $1000 cheaper than Titan RTX. Intel announced 10th Gen CPU lineup with a new logo.

You can say "just rebadging" for Coffee/Comet Lake lower core SKUs but 11th Tiger Lake is true new product.

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by fomine3 »

kllrnohj wrote: post #53
wffurr wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Native Thunderbolt, much faster clock speeds, and greatly improved graphics. Solid offering all around I think. Should give some competition for the Ryzen 4000-series laptop chips.

> Native Thunderbolt A nice tweak sure but also irrelevant as a consumer. It just results in one less component on the motherboard, it doesn't change any functionality. > much faster clock speeds Relative to what? Last year's 4c/8t 14nm i7-10510U has a higher boost frequency than any of the chips announced today, and it's also a 15 W TDP CPU. The 4c/8t i7-1185G7's 3ghz base frequency is nice I guess but barely higher…

Integrated Thunderbolt would reduce power consumption.

Ice Lake was released with higher IPC and lower clock (due to 10nm issue) but performs well compared to older higher clocked CPUs thanks to IPC. Now Tiger Lake is released in higher clock, why not exciting?

For iGPU, both AMD and Intel is mainly limited performance by memory bandwidth, I'm curious whether Intel releases a SKU with eDRAM.

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by fomine3 »

cma wrote: post #73
zionic wrote: post #15

The contrast in community enthusiasm between this and Nvidia's 3xxx announcement could not be more severe.

This claims they are announcing and not actually launching. No dates or prices: https://semiaccurate.com/2020/09/02/intel-doesnt-actually-la...

> SemiAccurate's checks with OEMs all say they Intel is shorting them on supply by 7-digit numbers in several cases.

I'm not good at English, What means this sentence?

Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake

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Post by influx »

CarbyAu wrote: post #156
ehvatum wrote: post #113

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120Hz is incredible for gaming. Unity and Unreal Engine dynamically scale tessellation and many other things to accommodate hardware performance, so as to maintain FPS on high-refresh screens. The polygon counts, texture detail, AI complexity of modern games is bonkers, but multiple moon landings of engineering time has gone into keeping solid 100Hz+ frame rates. However, you are definitely correct when it comes to G…

Every now and again I think a "Windowing/Compositing" desktop experience replacement in the form of an Unreal Engine based "game" would be cool. Even supports VR. '80s Cyberpunk matrix here I come! pulls out a virtual gun to kill a process dead

Have you seen psdoom?
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