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Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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I don’t know how these things wind up on Hacker News, but I oddly appreciate the break from things like “Use Vim to wash your clothes”.

1. There are websites to foster fears of warmongering (or to assure oneself that Red Dawn can never happen) such as Global Firepower. Here is the USA vs China. When I’m feeling unpatriotic, it can be fun to play with this website and imagine the torment we could cause our enemies, despite us not being able to regulate ride-sharing companies.

2. I’m not sure why military expenditures should matter so starkly. If I buy a 10 laser cannons for $1 million, and you spend $50 million on 5 million rifles, I might still beat you with my Stormtrooper weapon. Point is, it matters more on what you’re buying and building - and how you manage projects - than raw costs.

3. This article is not really new. The NY Times made a similar clickbait headline a few years back. The Brookings Institute rebutted it then.

4. The IQ arguments are specious. If IQ won wars, we wouldn’t have any. Also, I’ll take Patton, Lincoln, and Washington over their adversaries of the time, despite their adversaries being noted for their intellect. Lastly, what’s IQ got to do with anything in regards to China, a country that doesn’t reward innovative free enterprise. Their best and brightest aren’t at liberty to try their hand in the marketplace of ideas, but are forced to build what the Party says must be built. And those are just the ones that get found out. I imagine the truly bright minds of China stay in academia, escape, or humbly work the rice fields and keep their head down. I would. Why risk notoriety?

1. https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-comparison-detail....

2. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2018/09/10/w...

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already have a sufficient mastery in making surface fleet, mainly because they also have a robust and massive civilian shipbuilding industry (neck-to-neck with South Korea). Their next target probably is to master making submarine and nuclear propulsion. What I am looking forward is that assuming Chinese battery maker managed to lead the world both in research and manufacturing because massive Chinese Electric V…

China already has nuclear powered submarines

I'm thinking of raising the quality so that their next gen submarine will be on par with Russian submarine or even American.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Although the China Navy has more ships, the USA navy is the biggest by tonnage by a huge margin https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/links-navy.htm USA 6.2m tons China 2.1m tons Russia 1.9m tons UK 0.7m tons India 0.5m tons .....

To put into perspective, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy "[The USN] is larger than the next 13 navies combined, which includes 11 U.S. allies or partner nations"

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