Is there an official roadmap for NUCs with Tiger Lake / Xe or derivatives?
Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake
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#43The contrast in community enthusiasm between this and Nvidia's 3xxx announcement could not be more severe.
That was exciting. The performance gains are exciting. The product is exciting. The architecture is exciting. This is not exciting, unless I’m entirely missing the exciting part of this, which is wholly possible.
I actually think Tiger Lake is the most exciting thing Intel has released in years. I know that's a pretty low bar, but I'm still surprised that the reaction has been this meh.
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#44It will be interesting to see how these perform compared to AMDs laptop chips. I imagine the graphics tech is where they'll be able to shine especially on lower end laptops that don't have a discrete GPU.
Forget about AMD chips for a moment. They're x86 and Intel can play that game for years to come.
With a lineup of chips aimed at fanless ultraportables, pay attention to their performance compared to the upcoming Apple Silicon chips, or more importantly, the Qualcomm chips that Microsoft and Samsung are putting in their fanless ultraportables. Intel needs to head off the rise of Windows on ARM.
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#45From a quick read, in case anyone is wondering, this is built on the latest-gen 10nm process which is a refinement on the previous 10nm process. Intel's goal was to focus on clock increases, so the instruction per clock is apparently not much changed. From looking at the tables, the whole line of processors appear to have nicely improved one core max clock speeds, which should hopefully help single core performance,…
I agree. I don't feel much difference between the 15" MB-Pro i7 4-core from 2014 and the i9 8-core from 2019. The i9 really isn't noticeable faster on single core. Instead it gets hotter and its fans starts sooner. So I recommend keeping the old one if you have it.
Wouldn't newer ones be more power-efficient as compared to the older one? I remember reading a post on HN which stated the OP buying older, high spec hardware for cheaper than latest one and almost all comments pointed to power-efficient thing
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#46Laptop chips, somewhat boring to me. I'd be interested in fast desktop chips with fast single threaded performance, many cores, and AVX-512!
The market for mobile devices far exceeds desktop computers
https://www.statista.com/statistics/272595/global-shipments-...
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#47Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
laptop chips at 50W? Someone's going to be buying a brick.
50W is peak under all core turbo and only if the laptops cooling system can handle it. Most systems won't come anywhere near that
Which also means that most machines will not see any numbers mentioned here.
Re: Intel Launches 11th Gen Core Tiger Lake
#49From a quick read, in case anyone is wondering, this is built on the latest-gen 10nm process which is a refinement on the previous 10nm process. Intel's goal was to focus on clock increases, so the instruction per clock is apparently not much changed. From looking at the tables, the whole line of processors appear to have nicely improved one core max clock speeds, which should hopefully help single core performance,…
> Anecdote: a family member and software dev just bought the latest macbook pro coming from about an 8 year old macbook pro. Apparently he doesn't perceive much real world performance difference between the 2 machines. He said single core synthetic benchmarks were higher, but not by much.
It really depends on the workload. My old MacBook Pro feels the same as the newer model 98% of the time that I'm using it, but I really appreciate the extra RAM and double the core count when I need it.
Reducing build times from 30 seconds down to 15 seconds doesn't sound like much when you're not pressing the compile button very often, but it really does help improve my engagement and focus.
The newer graphics cards are also much better at handling large and high-resolution external monitors. The difference isn't pronounced if you're just using the built-in laptop screen, but start using multiple external 4K+ monitors and the faster GPU starts to shine.
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#50The article doesn't appear to mention the price points for these new chips. I also find it interesting that the TDP maxes out at 50W. Is Intel entirely focused on the medium/low end or is there a problem with doing higher TDP chips using the "SuperFin" architecture?
Lower tdp is one of the advantages of a smaller node.. and they have such low yields on 10nm they have to prioritize chips where that matters: laptops. In fact that’s been their strategy for a while from what I understand.
I think it matters for a data center as well: all the power you push into a CPU has to be pumped back out by the air conditioning.