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Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by nitrogen » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:02 PM UTC

mv4 wrote: post #3

FTA: 'The name Novichok means "newcomer" in Russian' No it doesn't. Novichok means "amateur, noob". Sigh.

So it's more like "incompetent newcomer?"

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by grishka » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:05 PM UTC

mv4 wrote: post #3

FTA: 'The name Novichok means "newcomer" in Russian' No it doesn't. Novichok means "amateur, noob". Sigh.

It means both. Source: native language.

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by _8j50 » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:07 PM UTC

yearoflinux wrote: post #6

So this is as confirmed as Iraq WMD and Russia collusion where the entire establishment and media comes together but ultimately this is fake? Or there is some actual proof?

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Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by krick » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:09 PM UTC

mv4 wrote: post #3

FTA: 'The name Novichok means "newcomer" in Russian' No it doesn't. Novichok means "amateur, noob". Sigh.

I'm ok with translating is as "noob", but if you want to be nitpicky about semantics, "amateur" would be quite literally "любитель", and absolutely not "новичок". And, yes, "новичок" is 100% literally "newcomer", both etymologically and in all possible meanings it can have in English.

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by rsynnott » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:09 PM UTC

mv4 wrote: post #3

FTA: 'The name Novichok means "newcomer" in Russian' No it doesn't. Novichok means "amateur, noob". Sigh.

Not sure about Russian, but contextually 'newcomer' can mean that in English, too.

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by billiam » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:09 PM UTC

If it was in his tea he never would have made it on the plane. The inventor of Novichok pointed this out and said it was likely applied to his skin.

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by chinhodado » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:12 PM UTC

Maybe I'm too skeptical, but this seems a bit too obvious to me. Why would you try to poison someone with no real threat to you and risk him becoming a martyr, using a method that immediately brings you to mind, with a nerve agent that is also strongly linked to you?

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by billiam » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:12 PM UTC

_8j50 wrote: post #13

yearoflinux wrote: post #6

So this is as confirmed as Iraq WMD and Russia collusion where the entire establishment and media comes together but ultimately this is fake? Or there is some actual proof?

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Well, they keep trying to kill people with nerve agents developed to fool 70s technology, so draw your own conclusions. I would say that being implicated is the point they are trying to make.

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by notyourday » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:12 PM UTC

mv4 wrote: post #3

FTA: 'The name Novichok means "newcomer" in Russian' No it doesn't. Novichok means "amateur, noob". Sigh.

In this context it should be translated as "novel" with some noun similar to "novel coronovirus".

Re: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok

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Post by gruez » Wed, Sep 02, 2020, 4:12 PM UTC

chinhodado wrote: post #17

Maybe I'm too skeptical, but this seems a bit too obvious to me. Why would you try to poison someone with no real threat to you and risk him becoming a martyr, using a method that immediately brings you to mind, with a nerve agent that is also strongly linked to you?

Didn't they poison some guy with radioactive isotopes a few years back? I don't think they care about it being attributed to them, or think that being attributed to them has positive value.