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Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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The new missile gap [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_gap I thought Obama already refuted this in 2012[2] [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3ORgw-h_4

This.

Also, the us military has a record of overplaying foreign military power, be it out of caution, keeping a low profile, or angling for more budget.

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I wonder how much of the hundreds millions (billions?) of dollars China was able to save due its status as a "developing economy" contributed to its massive military buildup. Or for that matter, that high priority for all developing economies, putting a lander on the moon. https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3004873/c...

USA has thrown and will continue to throw trillions at Covid, and has spent trillions in Afghanistan and Iraqi war. So the money is/was there

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't because they love money and they generate significant revenue in that market. Same reason nobody is calling China out for imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp.

China is NOT 'imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp'. Dig a little deeper. Hyperbole does not help anybody.

You are right, they re-educating them: Removing the impure things they learned or were born with, and instilling the Party ideals in them.

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

There's. It's called Firefly

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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The new missile gap [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missile_gap I thought Obama already refuted this in 2012[2] [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK3ORgw-h_4

If you mean that vastly over estimated potential and politics from the Kennedy era, to keep increasing / justify spends on difference, yes I guess.

U.S. navy has more aircraft carriers than rest of the world combined. I don't see how any objective sense metric how China is even close to "largest" Navy. Sure if you count every boat/warship each navy has they might be larger. Just like Iraq had the largest army just by number of soldiers.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They won't because they love money and they generate significant revenue in that market. Same reason nobody is calling China out for imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp.

China is NOT 'imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp'. Dig a little deeper. Hyperbole does not help anybody.

You are correct in that they have not imprisoned a million Uyghur muslims.

But it is cultural genocide with widespread, systemic rape, torture and murder.

Also it is questionable about whether they are free to leave the Xinjiang area.

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

The venerable “Firefly” series explored this a bit way back in 2002. The idea was that since china is _the_ superpower even the lowliest scum would know a curse word or two in chinese. Was quite an interesting concept back then.

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I wonder how much of the hundreds millions (billions?) of dollars China was able to save due its status as a "developing economy" contributed to its massive military buildup. Or for that matter, that high priority for all developing economies, putting a lander on the moon. https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3004873/c...

China surpassed the US in GDP normalized to PPP in 2014, which is the statistic that captures the power of their economy to manufacture and employ military force. Given current trends, it is inevitable that China's military will surpass the US's military power based on their economic prowess and manufacturing capability.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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China Military spending 2019: $261 billion, or 1.9% GDP

US Military spending in 2019: $732 billion, or 3.4% GDP

China leapfrogged the U.S. by spending a little less than one third of what the US squandered. Just let that sink in.

Oh and you know what China really is spending its money on, instead of militarized local police forces? Research.

China R&D spending in 2018: 4.11% of GDP.

U.S. R&D spending in 2016 and max ever spent: 2.7% GDP

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