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Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party.

They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on.

All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for this navy.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

Don't we have that already? Star Wars has always been the story of authoritarian governments, hasn't it?

A lot of the aesthetics looked like they are meant to portray the Nazis, but the empire lacks (to my knowledge, I'm not really into it) the "we must exterminate the undesirables" part and feels much closer like an authoritarian power that branches out and suppresses dissent, classical empire stuff, but without the crazy. That sounds about right for the CCP.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

They won't because they love money and they generate significant revenue in that market. Same reason nobody is calling China out for imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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I wonder how much of the hundreds millions (billions?) of dollars China was able to save due its status as a "developing economy" contributed to its massive military buildup. Or for that matter, that high priority for all developing economies, putting a lander on the moon. https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3004873/c...

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

Do we need a modern version of 1984?

WestWorld (season 3) comes to mind but doesn't have the communist structure; but any future dystopia would likely see the party replaced by algorithms leaving just the inner circle and the proles.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

They won't because they love money and they generate significant revenue in that market. Same reason nobody is calling China out for imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp.

China is NOT 'imprisoning a million Muslims in a concentration camp'. Dig a little deeper. Hyperbole does not help anybody.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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Instead of endlessly rehashing Blade Runner and ripping off Neuromancer, it would be nice to see film and TV execs produce something about the what the future world will look like when it’s dominated by the Chinese Communist Party. They won’t though because the Chinese Communist Party is fucking scary and doesn’t take to being commented on. All those little plastic widgets and cheap clothes we import are paying for t…

Don't we have that already? Star Wars has always been the story of authoritarian governments, hasn't it? A lot of the aesthetics looked like they are meant to portray the Nazis, but the empire lacks (to my knowledge, I'm not really into it) the "we must exterminate the undesirables" part and feels much closer like an authoritarian power that branches out and suppresses dissent, classical empire stuff, but without the…

A science-fantasy story like Star Wars is about as far away from speculative scifi like Neuromancer and Blade Runner as you can get.

Re: Pentagon: China Now Has World’s Largest Navy

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whether this navy is effective in a theater of war _today_ is a good question. They tend to be sub-optimal in a time dominated by PMC's and asymmetric warfare. Having a highly complex, maintenance-intensive fleet is nice for show and maybe to scare the odd South East Asian country into submission during disputes in the South China Sea. But for it to be effective it needs to be exercised in real life (kinetic) conditions. I think the PRC would get more bang for their buck by sending their troops to Africa (as they already do[1]) for them to get battle experience.

[1] https://defaakto.com/2020/07/18/chinas-other-presence-in-afr...

edit: I personally don't support any of their current & future war mongering and naval ambitions. The right foreign policy for the US would be maximum pressure and if they don't play by Western rules we should go to war with them immediately (we should have done so the moment they said Taiwan belongs to the PLC or when the news of the Uyghurs broke). Not doing so means we're only postponing this for a later point (when they are even stronger and when the damage will be even bigger on both sides).

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