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Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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Negative. Pilots only ever have to worry about one plane. ATCs have to worry about all of them.

Yes, but it’s like the difference between the chicken and the pig at breakfast.

This comparison flew over my head easily at about 20,000 feet, anyone else? Can someone give me clearance to land this bird, 20L please.

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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>> They are also very high-profile in nature and require a mothership to launch from, such as a helicopter, or at least a very high point to leap from. No. Yves "Jetman" Rossi's design can now launch from a standing position on the ground. It is able to launch, hover, transition to forward flight and zoom-climb to several thousand feet. Other than the landing, which is currently still via parachute ... ironman.

I wonder how long before special forces start using these to intercept aircraft, considering take off and landing are the crafts most vulnerable time in airspace? Do you think we will see someone attempting to plant a flag on Air Force One when it comes in to land at London Stansted? Hatfield forest is just over the A120 so not too far away with plenty of cover for escape and evasion.

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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post #79

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Negative. Pilots only ever have to worry about one plane. ATCs have to worry about all of them.

ATCs rarely have to worry about dying in the accident.

You don't need to be physically sat on the plane to emphasise with the severity of the situation. It's not like ATCs are willing pilots to die. And sometimes not being able to physically control the actions of the pilots can add to the stress.

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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There are youtube videos of ATC recordings (with transcripts) of pilots losing their cool. You are right, I don't think any ATC lost their cool in any of the recordings I've listened to. This quote from the article made me smile: >> Another pilot chimed in: "Only in LA."

> Another pilot chimed in: "Only in LA." The SR71 radio speed check was in LA too. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its ground speed. '90 knots Center replied. Moments later,a Twin Beech required the same. '120 knots' Center answered. We weren’t the only ones proud of our ground speed that day as almost instantly an F-18 smugly transmitted: 'Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests ground speed readout.' There was a slight…

That story is often told but is generally considered apocryphal. There is too much wrong with it procedurally. It's funny, but not likely a conversation that actually happened.

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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post #79

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Negative. Pilots only ever have to worry about one plane. ATCs have to worry about all of them.

Yes, but it’s like the difference between the chicken and the pig at breakfast.

The chicken is interested but the pig is invested.

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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post #103

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Yes, but it’s like the difference between the chicken and the pig at breakfast.

This comparison flew over my head easily at about 20,000 feet, anyone else? Can someone give me clearance to land this bird, 20L please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chicken_and_the_Pig

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

#109

Reminds me of lawn chair Larry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawnchair_Larry_flight

One would think that there would be higher fines for this sort of misbehavior.

As it turns out, you can't just make up laws just because someone did something unsafe for the purpose of punishing said person

Re: Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” flying alongside them

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As amusing as this is, it highlights how fragile air travel is -- someone managed to fly a 200 lb payload within a couple hundred feet of an airliner on final approach. And apparently did so anonymously since there was no mention of who or exactly what it was. It wouldn't be hard to maneuver it right in front of the airliner and cause a collision. While the aircraft would likely survive an engine strike, at only a fe…

All sorts of transportation are very fragile. Everyone with a driver's license is trusted with operating tons of steel that can move at enormous speeds.

Society's based on some amount of mutual trust. We can't lock everything down and treat every person as a potential criminal. That leads to an inefficient and dystopian country.

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