Modernizing the OpenBSD Console • Hacker News Board

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by aaron_m04 » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 3:44 AM UTC

smabie wrote: post #9

LeoPanthera wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Virtually everyone uses bits of OpenBSD. Android uses a lot of its C standard library, LLVM uses its regular expression library, and Windows 10 uses OpenSSH with LibreSSL. Armorlogic, Calyptix Security, GeNUA, RTMX, and .vantronix make network appliances based on the complete OS.

Don't forget tmux, cwm, openbgpd, and openntp. The OpenBSD guys consistently make very high quality tools.

cwm is a diamond in the rough for sure. Doesn't look like much but it's so easy to configure and use.

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by abrookewood » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 3:51 AM UTC

saagarjha wrote: post #8

Interestingly, some of the newer commits seem to have come from John Carmack. While it's not quite related to consoles, I've noticed that the non-GUI interface to a lot of operating systems often don't get a lot of love. Linux has had a fairly nice boot scroll, but I think part of that is because it's become an icon and as such is part of the public face of the OS; but on macOS for example it's an tiny awful experien…

If I recall correctly, there was an article on HN not so long ago about Carmack discovering BSD. Edit: found it - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23224584

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by smabie » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 3:52 AM UTC

aaron_m04 wrote: post #11

smabie wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget tmux, cwm, openbgpd, and openntp. The OpenBSD guys consistently make very high quality tools.

cwm is a diamond in the rough for sure. Doesn't look like much but it's so easy to configure and use.

I absolutely love cwm. Best floating window manager, hands down.

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by Aloha » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 4:33 AM UTC

am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by throwaway2048 » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 5:24 AM UTC

Aloha wrote: post #14

am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?

Its not even an option on newer UEFI machines, all consoles are a framebuffer.

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by unixhero » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 6:13 AM UTC

"Optimize character rendering in 32bpp mode (John Carmack, June 2020)"

Awesome

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by unixhero » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 6:14 AM UTC

throwaway2048 wrote: post #15

Aloha wrote: post #14

am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?

Its not even an option on newer UEFI machines, all consoles are a framebuffer.

Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks!

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by kjs3 » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 6:15 AM UTC

Aloha wrote: post #14

am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?

Not the only one, but one of the few.

glances at the VT-320 hooked to the OBSD firewalls

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by Aloha » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 6:18 AM UTC

kjs3 wrote: post #18

Aloha wrote: post #14

am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?

Not the only one, but one of the few. glances at the VT-320 hooked to the OBSD firewalls

I have a WY-185 sitting around, I feel like I should set it up again, on a terminal server maybe

Re: Modernizing the OpenBSD Console

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Post by Aloha » Tue, Sep 01, 2020, 6:19 AM UTC

throwaway2048 wrote: post #15

Aloha wrote: post #14

am I the only one who prefers a non-framebuffer console?

Its not even an option on newer UEFI machines, all consoles are a framebuffer.

Let me rephrase, I don't want a huge screen with tiny fonts for my console, the default should be at most 132x48