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China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example of a significant power, any time in history, that did have a lot of qualms with using repression for political ends? Even the Athenians had slaves.

The EU?

That's actually a decent answer, thanks. But they're an economic-only organization.

The EU didn't bomb Libya, France and Britain did.

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you give an example of a significant power, any time in history, that did have a lot of qualms with using repression for political ends? Even the Athenians had slaves.

The EU?

Each country of the EU has some dark corners, but I am still trusting them more than I would trust the USA, China or Russia.

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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post #7

I think this is a very good move for China and think the US should match it.

Why not 20%? Or 7.34%?

Of course you have no clue if an increase of 20% is too much or too little. Maybe even 7.34% is too much.

Since you have no clue and no proof of any kind, perhaps it would be wise to not support a 10% increase, or not be against any other increase or even a cut?

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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Waste of money...

They have no idea how much, if at all, RD spending should change. For example, how could they tell if it ought to be decreased? Too many patents or published research papers?

It's enormously entertaining to watch the HN readers' continuous support for increased government spending because it supposedly fits some modern economic theories or matches fake research papers without having any clue as to how economics actually works.

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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In principal this is good for humanity so long as the research isn’t directed towards tools to improve efficiency of repression.

I wonder if anyone has tried to measure repression's "drag coefficient" effect on creativity.

This is a very interesting question and one would hope that non repressive societies are more creative and have a higher scientific output. Im not 100 % sure thats the case, however.

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU?

That's actually a decent answer, thanks. But they're an economic-only organization. The EU didn't bomb Libya, France and Britain did.

One of the arguments for Brexit was that they’re becoming far more than an economic-only organisation

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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post #6

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> In principal this is good for humanity so long as the research isn’t directed towards tools to improve efficiency of repression. I wouldn't say it's that clear cut. Even if the R&D is not directly for technology for repression, it increases that power and prestige of a state that has few qualms with using repression for political ends. Those increases could mean that other states will come under its influence or em…

Can you give an example of a significant power, any time in history, that did have a lot of qualms with using repression for political ends? Even the Athenians had slaves.

The US?

They do it, but they have a lot of qualms about it.

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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post #7

I think this is a very good move for China and think the US should match it.

If you actually read the article we already outspend them on R&D. We spent 2.8% of GDP vs their 2.2% of GDP. They failed to meet their target of 2.5% of GDP despite steadily increasing.

Re: China again boosts R&D spending by more than 10%

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually a decent answer, thanks. But they're an economic-only organization. The EU didn't bomb Libya, France and Britain did.

One of the arguments for Brexit was that they’re becoming far more than an economic-only organisation

Yeah, and the handling of the Greece situation a few years ago proved that politics abound over justice or sanity in all arenas.

It'll be interesting to see how it develops, they're clearly more of a governing body than the UN, but also seem to have steered clear of anything close to a security issue.

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