PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by jandeboevrie » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 10:05 AM UTC

PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
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Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by hasperdi » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 10:57 AM UTC

This is an exciting development!

I am though wondering, if the current version is stable & working well enough to be a daily driver / main phone.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by fsflover » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:02 AM UTC

I wonder if it will be powered by Purism's Phosh (by default) like many other distros already.

"Phosh is current available on 8 different mobile distros that have been ported to the PinePhone, and Phosh is the preferred DE on 7 of those 8."

https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-ph...

The list of those distros is in the link.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by collyw » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:08 AM UTC

I like Manjaro and I like the idea of an open source phone, but I was disappointed by the Ubuntu phone after actually buying one. It's basically that "content is king", with the content being apps. Is this going to be the same?

(A lot of the apps on the Ubuntu phone were web based rather than native, which is actually a drawback when you don't have an internet connection. There was no way to do offline maps for example).

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by joshumax » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:09 AM UTC

fsflover wrote: post #3

I wonder if it will be powered by Purism's Phosh (by default) like many other distros already. "Phosh is current available on 8 different mobile distros that have been ported to the PinePhone, and Phosh is the preferred DE on 7 of those 8." https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-ph... The list of those distros is in the link.

Manjaro on the PinePhone currently has 2 branches. The first alphas used Plasma Mobile and another branch of alphas use Phosh. Work on the Plasma Mobile builds seems to have slowed down for Manjaro ARM, partially likely due to some UI instability and also because the Phosh experience currently feels more polished.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by MYEUHD » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:17 AM UTC

fsflover wrote: post #3

I wonder if it will be powered by Purism's Phosh (by default) like many other distros already. "Phosh is current available on 8 different mobile distros that have been ported to the PinePhone, and Phosh is the preferred DE on 7 of those 8." https://amosbbatto.wordpress.com/2020/08/05/advantages-of-ph... The list of those distros is in the link.

> There are currently three Manjaro PinePhone build variants (Lomiri, Phosh and Plasma Mobile) for users to try out

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by DoofusOfDeath » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:18 AM UTC

Can someone help me understand the relationship between phone hardware and carriers in the US?

I recently bought a new, unlocked Samsung phone on Amazon. When I put a Verizon SIM card into it, a Verizon-specific firmware module got added. I don't understand why that would be necessary.

Asking because I'm attracted to the idea of a phone I truly control, but not sure what that means for carrier compatibility.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by sukilot » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:23 AM UTC

collyw wrote: post #4

I like Manjaro and I like the idea of an open source phone, but I was disappointed by the Ubuntu phone after actually buying one. It's basically that "content is king", with the content being apps. Is this going to be the same? (A lot of the apps on the Ubuntu phone were web based rather than native, which is actually a drawback when you don't have an internet connection. There was no way to do offline maps for examp…

What about Open Street Map?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Using_OpenStreetMap_offl... ?

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by arghwhat » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:25 AM UTC

collyw wrote: post #4

I like Manjaro and I like the idea of an open source phone, but I was disappointed by the Ubuntu phone after actually buying one. It's basically that "content is king", with the content being apps. Is this going to be the same? (A lot of the apps on the Ubuntu phone were web based rather than native, which is actually a drawback when you don't have an internet connection. There was no way to do offline maps for examp…

The phones are made, and sold at this price, as a community service to help develop the open source platforms (postmarketOS, ubuntu touch, etc.), not as a consumer phone. A prototype of sorts.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by linmob » Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 11:37 AM UTC

collyw wrote: post #4

I like Manjaro and I like the idea of an open source phone, but I was disappointed by the Ubuntu phone after actually buying one. It's basically that "content is king", with the content being apps. Is this going to be the same? (A lot of the apps on the Ubuntu phone were web based rather than native, which is actually a drawback when you don't have an internet connection. There was no way to do offline maps for examp…

The app situation is not perfect, but there are some (not all available on every distribution): https://linmobapps.frama.io.

Specifically Pure Maps is available as a Flatpak and can be used in conjunction with OSM Scout Server for Offline Maps.

Also, Anbox support got almost usable in the PinePhone’s ArchLinuxARM distribution with working networking and a working keyboard just yesterday, so some Android apps are going to work. I expect Manjaro to ship at least the same level of Anbox support with their PinePhone CE.