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Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

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Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

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Interesting map, its crazy how often these groups fracture and splinter! Really wish one of these would go publicly traded and report revenue, leading to real price discovery of these operations and ability to manage risk. There are permissionless systems they can use now to list shares, and if they have a liquidity issue they just need to take over a dam and generate some electricity for themselves for their crypto…

Is this a roundabout way of trying to associate cryptocurrencies with criminal groups? In case this isn't obvious, no, there's no trustless way to make an entity distribute its real world profits to holders of a crypto token. We're talking about mafias here, groups which specialize in hiding money streams. Only enforcement from a real world judiciary system can enforce dividend distribution.

Unless, of course, the same tokens were used to conduct the drug transactions.

Then all the token holders have an interest in preventing non-tokenized transactions.

This is all ridiculous (and evil of course) but it has a certain internally consistent logic to it.

Why would they adopt a new system given they've got such a good grip on current one?

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#92
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is untrue, as drug cartels still make tons of weed to sell in areas where it’s already legalized.

Citation please? The profit that Colorado and other states are reporting makes it hard to believe the black market is even a shadow of its former self in those states.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-20/californ...

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#93

Legalizing all drugs would kill these cartels almost instantly. People who do drugs do them anyway and find a way to even if they’re illegal. If drugs weren’t illegal all that money wouldnt end up in mexican cartels pockets.

This is absolutely not going to be the case. Assuming both the US and Mexico simultaneous legalized all drugs, what happens to all the illegal jobs the cartels currently have? Their people, money and weapons don't vanish and what we see when cartels take a hit income is violence increases and the cartels look to other methods of making income using they're existing tools. Protection rackets and kidnappings are alread…

Wow, your response is literally "let them hold us hostage, it's safer than upsetting the status quo."

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#94

Legalizing all drugs would kill these cartels almost instantly. People who do drugs do them anyway and find a way to even if they’re illegal. If drugs weren’t illegal all that money wouldnt end up in mexican cartels pockets.

This is absolutely not going to be the case. Assuming both the US and Mexico simultaneous legalized all drugs, what happens to all the illegal jobs the cartels currently have? Their people, money and weapons don't vanish and what we see when cartels take a hit income is violence increases and the cartels look to other methods of making income using they're existing tools. Protection rackets and kidnappings are alread…

If their main source of income is cut off they will have to immediately downsize or it would all eat into the boss’s accumulated wealth. Reestablishing the cartel on kidnapping and other violent crime is not as lucrative as selling sniffy gold. If they start kidnapping in America is a different thing all together but doing it in Mexico would not yield enough money to keep the current operations - unless they kidnap every Mexican citizen or something like that... Closest move is to get involved directly into politics

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#95
post #7

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The issue will be enforcement of these laws. How will you regulate the possession and distribution of IMUs and electric motors? Hell most of the parts you need to build a drone are available in a used cellphone and many of the rest can be 3d printed.

To underscore your point, here's an example of how easy it is to get god-tier military hardware in Mexico from one of the many people breaking bad across the border in the US. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/arming... This fella in Texas was selling .50-cals and miniguns straight to the Cartels for years. There are likely many, many more like him. Mexican think tanks have spent years trying to f…

There was an absolutely trivial solution: send a few fighter planes to blow up the haciendas and spray herbicide on the plantations. But the US government prefers to profit and make political hay from the drug war.

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#96
post #9

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Each with and incendiary charge and the GPS coordinates of every home/building in a city. Who needs Tokyo/Dresden firebombing anymore.

Allied bombing is a thing that happened, but sometimes it seems like people really strain to relate anything to something shameful associated with Americans. In this particular context, if you're thinking of WWII, it's kind of odd for a person not to think of and compare the concept to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Go_balloon_bomb

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Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#97
post #85

I actually work in the drone detection/jamming field. My only surprise is that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. We already see drones used for drug smuggling and privacy violations, as well as the use of drones to carry IED payloads. Drones are an amazing tool but as with any tool, they can be used in nefarious ways.

Has there been any progress with coming up with a system that can _reliably_ jam them?

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#98
post #16

Interesting map, its crazy how often these groups fracture and splinter! Really wish one of these would go publicly traded and report revenue, leading to real price discovery of these operations and ability to manage risk. There are permissionless systems they can use now to list shares, and if they have a liquidity issue they just need to take over a dam and generate some electricity for themselves for their crypto…

Just taking over a dam - real life isn’t goldeneye

Just buy all the shares in an existing dam.

^Takeover bid* I believe they call it.

Hostile takeover bid is even a thing, and legal.

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

#99

Legalizing all drugs would kill these cartels almost instantly. People who do drugs do them anyway and find a way to even if they’re illegal. If drugs weren’t illegal all that money wouldnt end up in mexican cartels pockets.

I’ve read that the cartels have diversified their businesses enough that this is no longer true. Do you have a source?

Source for what? Currently US dollars are entering the cartels pockets, big dollars and there’s no secret. And naturally they scaled up the operations because the demand is high. If drugs became legal demand would go down and it would cut into their operations “biggly”.

Re: Drug cartel assassinates its enemies with bomb-toting drones

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I remember someone flying one full of meth into the side of the Tijuana Costco. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/border-baja-califo... I always thought drones would bring down the violence in Mexico, since it would be easier to keep your distribution network under the radar. If you don't have to recruit hundreds of people to actually drive the drugs across the border, and can fly it over the fence in the mid…

This is an oversimplification of what the drug cartels do. The Cartels are the only buyer and seller of significance in Mexico, two narco-technocrats couldn’t get enough cocaine to import to make a difference without their buy in
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