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Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Tech banned in my house :D - Windows and telemetry-based apps. I do have a VM for a work VPN however. - Google, except the school district forced an exception. - Youtube, unless supervised on a shared anonymous tablet. - Double-click and other advertising sites. - Third-party cookies, and most third-party javascript. - No giving out information to any site, make it up if required. - Alexa etc, wife uses Siri. As you…

Maybe the internet is a different place now but if these restrictions were placed on me as a kid I never would have grown up to be who I am today.

Which restrictions? YouTube is about the only one that I could see having an impact. Having your information tracked doesn’t help you grow to any better than being anonymous.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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My dad shut off the internet when he went to bed every night. At 7:00-8:00 PM. I presume so I would sleep? 'Videogames ruined your life' was what I heard constantly.

For a while, I had a timer click it back on and off. At some point I learned kali linux just enough to crack the neighbor's WiFi. There was also the time my BIOS was locked, but I found out there was a jumper circuit on the MB that reset it.

I'm now a very successful software engineer with a long history of devop experience. Shrug

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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My house rules (I have 3 kids):

- do whatever you want on your devices, but you break it - you fix it (your brothers might help you but it’s up to them);

- on school days, all internet ends at 10pm, but you are welcome to hack into my firewall;

- everything you post online is public and saved forever;

- use generated passwords and 1password for all passwords and all password recovery questions.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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This strikes me as the belief of a person who doesn't have much of their own self-identity. I certainly don't need others to tell me whether or not I'm a credible person.

When we go to listen to a doctor or lawyer, do we do so because we know the reality inside a doctor's head, or because the doctor relates to the rest of society through high credibility? To what degree does being a doctor affect your relations with the rest of society? If a doctor knows they're good enough, is that good enough?

Why not both? \0/

Obviously every person has their own personal view of themselves and everyone also has their view of other people. Which one you call "identity" is pedantry.

This multi-universe of identities is allowed. Through interactions they may change - or they may not. They are used to inform our decision making in either sense.

They are all allowed to exist simultaneously - whichever one you value more.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Grave danger? Of what? I suspect most of HN had free rein of the internet in their formative years. I’m sure I did a lot of stuff my parents wouldn’t have been thrilled about but I was never in grave danger (or any danger really) and I learned a ton. I’d be far more concerned with the potential lasting damage from a kid’s dumb social media posts than crime.

You can’t seriously compare the internet of even 10 years ago to the internet of today. You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. That content was available then, sure. It wasn’t blasted right at you though.

They're far more likely to be enthralled with democratic groups like antifa or BLM and see how they slap around 70 year old white folks leaving the Republican convention, or how they should surround old ladies having a few drinks on a patio and scream and yell at them until they raise their fist and chant ~~black power~~ err i mean BLM. Or the best one, how anytime a black guy gets shot by the cops it's racism.

Yeh you used to see some horrific shit on nowthatsfuckedup.com, but the kids watching almost anything today, even the news are ironically far more ignorant of science and reality. And what's more, their parents are just as dumb.

But hey, men can be women now so everyone can pretty much say what they want and it's just as true as 2+2=5 or something.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Grave danger? Of what? I suspect most of HN had free rein of the internet in their formative years. I’m sure I did a lot of stuff my parents wouldn’t have been thrilled about but I was never in grave danger (or any danger really) and I learned a ton. I’d be far more concerned with the potential lasting damage from a kid’s dumb social media posts than crime.

You can’t seriously compare the internet of even 10 years ago to the internet of today. You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. That content was available then, sure. It wasn’t blasted right at you though.

We had Columbine in our era. Maybe it took a bit more effort but newsground.com was an easy site to play some screwed up games. It existed and could easily be found.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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My parents banned toy guns. Not all parents did. A couple of kids at school were really into them. I wonder how they turned out.

Probably just fine.

My mother hated toy guns; my father insisted we be allowed to play with Nerf. Friends of the family weren't allowed toy guns at all, but the mother finally gave up: one morning, she saw her sons chew toast into the shape of pistols and chase each other around the table shouting "pew! pew!"

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Rules for my kids: If you're over 10 years of age you should know what your limits are. I'm always going to be here for advice and help to get yourself back up from an accident or something that went wrong. I won't block content. I won't demand access to their phones. I won't shame them in any way. I'm also planning on being sex and body positive. Nudity isn't inherently sexual and shame is a social construct. Nothin…

There are pedophiles online who specialize in preying on kids that have parents like you

I honestly feel really terrible for your kids if this is how you teach them about the world outside your front door.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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What percentage of these technologies were available when you were a kid? Chances are addictive nature of these engagement driven websites would have sucked up our curiosity and autodidactism to an extent that there wouldn’t be much time left for actually doing hands on experimentation, self-directing our research, coming to our own conclusions and experience inventiveness that come from boredom. I think this downsid…

All of those existed 9 years ago, there are adults today who grew up with them.

I don't think you can compare the addictiveness of sites today to those of a decade ago. The algorithms are very different. It should be unsurprising that in the last decade that they have gotten better at engineering ~~addiction~~engagement.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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You can’t seriously compare the internet of even 10 years ago to the internet of today. You can go to reddit right now and find a video of some right wing whacko shooting someone to death on the front page. That content was available then, sure. It wasn’t blasted right at you though.

When I was growing up, I had to walk uphill both going to and coming from school.

Luxury! When I was a boy we had to crawl for two hours each way through burning hot gravel to get to school, and if you were late they'd whip you with an old electrical cord.
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