Live data from Hacker News

The Legend of GayBlade

blog.archive.org

21–30 of 135 posts

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#21

When I was a child, Smear the Queer was a game all the boys played. Fag was a commonly used slur. When I was in high school the state of California told gay couples to go fuck themselves. Societal progress is a wonderful thing to see.

> When I was in high school the state of California told gay couples to go fuck themselves.

Except, they actually wanted them to do exactly the opposite....

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#22
post #17
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, found that docu-series highly frustrating because they left out so much. But I suppose there was only so much time.

I get your point but I liked it a lot despite this. They had some big names but the focus on the little people (players), the Nintendo call centre, and stuff like Gay Blade was a part of history I hadn't really seen especially as a non-US person. Finishing at Doom seemed an odd place to stop, though I guess an argument can be made that's the start of the modern era even though it was nearly 30 years ago now. There's…

As an American, the Nintendo callcenter and Gay Blade parts were new to me as well, and I lived through most of the time period of the series.

I think Doom made sense to end on. It was really the first modern 3D FPS. Plus, in the mid-90's (when it was released) there was an explosion of gaming. It would be hard to summarize the period after the mid-90's to today (look how much they had to cut out during the comparatively quiet 70s and 80s.

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#23
post #9

Is this Gaytekeeping? “ One thing to say though, is that perhaps you should be careful to have an accurate historical record? Queer theory did not exist until ~mid 1990s, so perhaps none of these games are LGBTQIA+ — they’re Gay and Lesbian works.”

Strikes me more as pedantry.

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#24
post #22
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get your point but I liked it a lot despite this. They had some big names but the focus on the little people (players), the Nintendo call centre, and stuff like Gay Blade was a part of history I hadn't really seen especially as a non-US person. Finishing at Doom seemed an odd place to stop, though I guess an argument can be made that's the start of the modern era even though it was nearly 30 years ago now. There's…

As an American, the Nintendo callcenter and Gay Blade parts were new to me as well, and I lived through most of the time period of the series. I think Doom made sense to end on. It was really the first modern 3D FPS. Plus, in the mid-90's (when it was released) there was an explosion of gaming. It would be hard to summarize the period after the mid-90's to today (look how much they had to cut out during the comparati…

It makes sense in retrospect, I just wasn't expecting it to suddenly stop when it did (I was paying no attention to number of episodes).

Though every year in the mid-90s was indeed a huge step forward so it'd be tough to cover everything that happened.

It's a bit funny to me they didn't drop the term 'Doom clone' in there before going straight for FPS. That term hung around for years as a testament to its influence.

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#25
post #10

Feels like a submarine ad for Netflix.

Out of curiosity why are you searching for that? Like if that's your only comment it makes it seem like the possibility of it being an ad dilutes the message they are writing about? Many articles are sponsored. Many are ghostwritten. Protip: Often times the second company/solution in the article about the solutions is the one that paid for it. Who cares? You want the FTC to step in with an "AHA! #AD!" banner forced o…

Well, it's an important concept to know when something is an ad or not and to, even in general, know or be able to reason about the motivations of the writer of an article. I think that's why it's important. This is especially relevant when it's a submarine ad, as the person to whom you're replying mentioned.

In any case, your comment seems very aggressive.

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#26

When I was a child, Smear the Queer was a game all the boys played. Fag was a commonly used slur. When I was in high school the state of California told gay couples to go fuck themselves. Societal progress is a wonderful thing to see.

For those who aren't familiar, Smear the Queer is a playground game in which one person has to keep a ball away from the rest of the group, who tries to tackle them. It's sort of like a cross between "reverse tag" and gridiron/rugby football.

(The gay-bashing element is just a metaphor, you see.)

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity why are you searching for that? Like if that's your only comment it makes it seem like the possibility of it being an ad dilutes the message they are writing about? Many articles are sponsored. Many are ghostwritten. Protip: Often times the second company/solution in the article about the solutions is the one that paid for it. Who cares? You want the FTC to step in with an "AHA! #AD!" banner forced o…

Well, it's an important concept to know when something is an ad or not and to, even in general, know or be able to reason about the motivations of the writer of an article. I think that's why it's important. This is especially relevant when it's a submarine ad, as the person to whom you're replying mentioned. In any case, your comment seems very aggressive.

> In any case, your comment seems very aggressive.

How could that be? Perhaps because I am ridiculing that person who got nothing else out of the article.

It reminds me of a juvenile that just found out the world works a slightly different way than they were told in kindergarten. There is simply a more obvious and more substantive discussion to be had about the above article, then incessantly searching for ads, you can just assume everything is an ad as a baseline and move on, with the format of the ad being just as strategic.

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#28
post #18
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It comes from an essay by Paul Graham as far as I know: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html > "One of the most surprising things I discovered during my brief business career was the existence of the PR industry, lurking like a huge, quiet submarine beneath the news. Of the stories you read in traditional media that aren't about politics, crimes, or disasters, more than half probably come from PR firms." I see no…

>"not for profit" and "not an adverticle" Neither of those cases excludes the possibility that the article was influenced by a PR campaign in some way (author's intentions are in fact irrelevant to this question), in this case for a recently-released, and apparently not particularly great documentary by Netflix.

Well, this is a post by Jason Scott of the Internet Archive. I trust him. And he posted the source code and online playable game.

(In a submarine ad, the intentions pretty much matter. It refers to an article directly commissioned or written by a PR firm).

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#29
post #18
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It comes from an essay by Paul Graham as far as I know: http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html > "One of the most surprising things I discovered during my brief business career was the existence of the PR industry, lurking like a huge, quiet submarine beneath the news. Of the stories you read in traditional media that aren't about politics, crimes, or disasters, more than half probably come from PR firms." I see no…

>"not for profit" and "not an adverticle" Neither of those cases excludes the possibility that the article was influenced by a PR campaign in some way (author's intentions are in fact irrelevant to this question), in this case for a recently-released, and apparently not particularly great documentary by Netflix.

The causal chain is obvious: the documentary surfaced interest in the game; this led to a call to try to locate the lost game; it was located and uploaded on archive.org (a library) for preservation's sake. You can consume the game with or without watching the documentary or subscribing to Netflix and no one was compensated.

Of course the documentary and the release of the game are connected, but in precisely the opposite way from what you propose.

Re: The Legend of GayBlade

#30

When I was a child, Smear the Queer was a game all the boys played. Fag was a commonly used slur. When I was in high school the state of California told gay couples to go fuck themselves. Societal progress is a wonderful thing to see.

Not sure how old you are, but even in 2010 when I was in high school our boy scout troop played smear the queer and the first time I learned the word gay was as an insult. Didn't really help with the whole growing up gay thing.
Post reply on HN