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Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by xnyan »

bad_user wrote: post #40
giancarlostoro wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. All three major OS platforms have their own faults. I hear Mac people praise Mac as dev ready but just like Windows you gotta install additional things to make it useful for building things you can deploy to a Linux server. Linux has its own flaws especially with how they handle package management: I wish Debian would differentiate between system required packages and user app packages, imagine letting the s…

> " I could easily argue Windows is easier than either one with WSL. " No you definitely couldn't. The experience is sub-par, having to deal with the Win boundary sucks, it's slower, and many apps don't work. This is very visible when trying to use an editor that's not imbued with Microsoft's magic. WSL is a glorified virtual machine, that's all. Homebrew does not install a virtual machine. I'm not 100% happy with it…

Windows is easier than either one with WSL. If two people can make that argument, maybe you can in fact make that argument? Something to consider.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by threatofrain »

RandoHolmes wrote: post #50
threatofrain wrote: post #34

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IMO your identity is how people think of you. You might think of yourself as an credible person, but if other people don't think so then what's your identity? You might think of yourself as a safe person, but if other people don't feel that way, then what's your identity? In this perspective, identity is about relating to other people, whether on matters of Chevy, Apple, or skin color.

This strikes me as the belief of a person who doesn't have much of their own self-identity. I certainly don't need others to tell me whether or not I'm a credible person.

When we go to listen to a doctor or lawyer, do we do so because we know the reality inside a doctor's head, or because the doctor relates to the rest of society through high credibility? To what degree does being a doctor affect your relations with the rest of society?

If a doctor knows they're good enough, is that good enough?

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by RandoHolmes »

rdiddly wrote: post #31

I'm with the dad. Not necessarily for the specific choices but for making a choice. Author should have waited another 10 years because this is a shallow and still-immature perspective that underappreciates her dad's principle and integrity. Why should a company that demonstrably sucks for you, continue to get your money? (So your teenage daughter can be like the cool kids?) It's called voting with your wallet, and a…

agree 100% and made roughly the same point in a reply to someone else.

The father was accused of fanboyism, but my takeaway from the article is just that the father had high expectations and when those expectations weren't met they refused to continue giving them money.

If more people were like this, these companies would be better.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by mongol »

kgwgk wrote: post #27
stiray wrote: post #10

My father didnt want to have cable tv. On antenna we only got ORF (austrian television) and local one (which sucked). I needed almost 10 years to actually hear how Captain Kirk in Raumschiff Enterprise really sounds (everything is synchronized to german) like. Side effect: I also fluently speak german. And banning social networks is positive for your kids. Also ads.

> Side effect: I also fluently speak german. May have been useful living in Austria! > everything is synchronized to german I suspect that's not the word you were looking for. PS: I guess that explains it: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronisation_(Film)

My guess is parent lived in another country bordering to Austria. Italy? Hungary?

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by itronitron »

hddherman wrote: post #2

I would love to have a discussion with the person(s) who think that having an autoplay video pop up and cover 40% of the article I’m trying to read is a good idea.

Be sure to tell them that is why people like myself don't even bother visiting such sites.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by noman-land »

wayneftw wrote: post #21
dijit wrote: post #5

I am genuinely sick to death of people taking up arms in some sort of faction war against their supposed "opponent" technology. I see it everywhere. PlayStation or Xbox! PCMR or Console! MacOS or Windows! iOS or Android! Disturbing tribalism. Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion. I see so many people taking up arms aga…

> you don't see tradesmen getting all pissy about people buying DeWalt power drills. Tribalism is everywhere. Dodge vs Chevy vs Ford is one that certain tradesmen might be inclined to take part in. Certainly even tool brands like DeWalt vs Makita. I don't see a problem with it. This is like complaining that people have opinions and that they might argue about them. It's 100% human nature. Arguing against it is like a…

It's not about having opinions, it's about spending energy arguing about them. Everyone has opinions, but they're not going to go to war about ice cream flavors, nor should they. It's worth going to war with people who think keeping slaves is okay. It's not worth going to war over which brand of phone people use.

Overzealous tribalism can lead to otherizing and dehumanizing and all sorts of terrible things. Let's save those side effects for things that are a little more important than which car you like to drive.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by kgwgk »

mongol wrote: post #54
kgwgk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Side effect: I also fluently speak german. May have been useful living in Austria! > everything is synchronized to german I suspect that's not the word you were looking for. PS: I guess that explains it: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronisation_(Film)

My guess is parent lived in another country bordering to Austria. Italy? Hungary?

Ah, that makes sense. I thought it was Austrian + regional/city (and assumed he was a foreigner living temporarily in Austria), but it probably is Austrian + (could also be Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic; or Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia depending on the epoch).

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by Super_Jambo »

hindsightbias wrote: post #24
dijit wrote: post #5

I am genuinely sick to death of people taking up arms in some sort of faction war against their supposed "opponent" technology. I see it everywhere. PlayStation or Xbox! PCMR or Console! MacOS or Windows! iOS or Android! Disturbing tribalism. Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion. I see so many people taking up arms aga…

Actually, many tradespeople are pretty elitist about their power tools. There are a lot of brands that have gone downhill or been amalgamated so there are those that hold out for older era models that were allegedly better built (ala Thinkpads). I’d be a real power tool guy if I could afford Hilti, but I get some cred for being a Makita guy. While tribalism does have its bad points, am not sure modern capitalism/cons…

Given modern consumerism is making the planet uninhabitable this is a weird argument to make in favour of tribalism.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by stiray »

mongol wrote: post #54
kgwgk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Side effect: I also fluently speak german. May have been useful living in Austria! > everything is synchronized to german I suspect that's not the word you were looking for. PS: I guess that explains it: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronisation_(Film)

My guess is parent lived in another country bordering to Austria. Italy? Hungary?

Slovenia or Yugoslavia at that time.
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