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Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by benbristow » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:18 PM UTC

cowmix wrote: post #6

Now that my kids are officially "grown" (18+), here were/are my tech rules for the house: 1) We (my wife and I) do not want to know any of your passwords. 2) No content filters on any device or router level. 3) Mixed OSes (we had Linux, MacOS and Windows in the house). 4) NEVER share your passwords with friends. 5) Anything you email, txt or post to anyone... consider it public. Nothing online is private. 6) No conso…

Why no consoles?

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by leonidasv » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:21 PM UTC

hddherman wrote: post #2

I would love to have a discussion with the person(s) who think that having an autoplay video pop up and cover 40% of the article I’m trying to read is a good idea.

Not to mention the number of advertisements that take up the whole screen in the middle of the text. That plus the video killed my motivation to continue reading the story.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by xwdv » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:21 PM UTC

cowmix wrote: post #6

Now that my kids are officially "grown" (18+), here were/are my tech rules for the house: 1) We (my wife and I) do not want to know any of your passwords. 2) No content filters on any device or router level. 3) Mixed OSes (we had Linux, MacOS and Windows in the house). 4) NEVER share your passwords with friends. 5) Anything you email, txt or post to anyone... consider it public. Nothing online is private. 6) No conso…

The list was going very well until the last bit about “No Consoles”. Now the rest of its credibility is shot.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by LegitShady » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:22 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #5

I am genuinely sick to death of people taking up arms in some sort of faction war against their supposed "opponent" technology. I see it everywhere. PlayStation or Xbox! PCMR or Console! MacOS or Windows! iOS or Android! Disturbing tribalism. Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion. I see so many people taking up arms aga…

I think it's a combination of human nature and a side effect of marketing.

Since neither human nature or marketing are liable to go away any time soon I doubt the team mentality to buying things will either.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by hprotagonist » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:23 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #5

I am genuinely sick to death of people taking up arms in some sort of faction war against their supposed "opponent" technology. I see it everywhere. PlayStation or Xbox! PCMR or Console! MacOS or Windows! iOS or Android! Disturbing tribalism. Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion. I see so many people taking up arms aga…

Item: a woman friend of mine recently told me that she'd broken off a (hitherto) stimulating exchange of e-mail with a young man. At first he had seemed like such an intelligent and interesting guy, she said, but then "he started going all PC-versus-Mac on me." What the hell is going on here? And does the operating system business have a future, or only a past?

1997!

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by giancarlostoro » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:24 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #5

I am genuinely sick to death of people taking up arms in some sort of faction war against their supposed "opponent" technology. I see it everywhere. PlayStation or Xbox! PCMR or Console! MacOS or Windows! iOS or Android! Disturbing tribalism. Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion. I see so many people taking up arms aga…

I agree. All three major OS platforms have their own faults. I hear Mac people praise Mac as dev ready but just like Windows you gotta install additional things to make it useful for building things you can deploy to a Linux server.

Linux has its own flaws especially with how they handle package management: I wish Debian would differentiate between system required packages and user app packages, imagine letting the system run their sanctified version of Python but as a user being able to run any and all versions of Python.

I could easily argue Windows is easier than either one with WSL. Unlike on macOS you need to install Homebrew or similar plus then all your utils. With WSL you can install all sorts of Distros that may have everything you need OOTB.

They all have their benefits and trade offs and from year to year I go to and from Linux and Windows, I dont get compensated enough to be buying Macs so I only have the one Macbook Air but its enough to asess all three imho. I have also used dozens of Linux distros. I used to hop from distro to distro. My favorite thus far is still openSUSE.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by klyrs » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:24 PM UTC

In the late 90s, my dad was really mad about me experimenting with Linux on my personal computer which I built from parts bought with money earned at a summer job. It was kinda hilarious. He has zero involvement with microsoft, very little knowledge of computers, and tended to be mildly anti-establishment... and since it was 100% my computer, it had zero impact on his life. It really felt like a "my role is to crack down on my rebellious teenager no matter the cause" situation. Of course, he shut right up when I lined up a sysadmin job starting immediately after graduation.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by pwg » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:25 PM UTC

hddherman wrote: post #2

I would love to have a discussion with the person(s) who think that having an autoplay video pop up and cover 40% of the article I’m trying to read is a good idea.

With NoScript (https://noscript.net/) blocking all of the javascript by default, I got no autoplay video and no article coverup at all.

I simply got a blog post that I read through from start to finish without anything else getting in the way.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by gpapilion » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:26 PM UTC

This makes me think of this book: https://www.amazon.com/OBD-Obsessive-Branding-Disorder-Illus...

The author outlined in part of it a move from appeals to ego to appeals to id for marketing, and how this is a more powerful approach since it appeals to sense of belonging.

You see that in the fathers commitment to particular brands, and how they define him.

Re: Tech my dad banned in our house when I was a kid

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Post by wolfgke » Sun, Aug 30, 2020, 5:26 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #5

I am genuinely sick to death of people taking up arms in some sort of faction war against their supposed "opponent" technology. I see it everywhere. PlayStation or Xbox! PCMR or Console! MacOS or Windows! iOS or Android! Disturbing tribalism. Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion. I see so many people taking up arms aga…

> Liking Apple does not make you cool, not liking Apple does not make you cool. Apple produces hardware and software, it is not a religion.

I disagree: For example accepting or rejecting a golden cage is a deep decision about one's moral values - thus near to a religion.