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I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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I’m very nostalgic about the countless hours I frittered away on video games and the internet as an adolescent. Part of me thinks it made me the person I am today, who I am proud of. I recently joined a Counter Strike team with work and had some of the most fun times I can think of recently. I compare that with the time I put aside to learn 3D modelling, which was fun in its own way but required more self motivation…

> It made me question what society accepts as a valid way to spend spare time Well, to be brutally honest with you, it's one thing for you to be proud of yourself for playing video games, but why would anyone else see that as something pride-worthy? Typically, one takes justifiable pride for accomplishments that stand up to external scrutiny. That usually comes in the form of the accomplishment having an element of s…

Really liked the separation between slack and laziness!

> Typically, one takes justifiable pride for accomplishments that stand up to external scrutiny. That usually comes in the form of the accomplishment having an element of sacrifice, of pain and difficulty

I think this is where a lot of people might lose themselves, and I might be misinterpreting you here, but: I think an important distinction is that people should take pride in providing value for their community, not having it be approved by them. Otherwise we might end up acting contrary to our beliefs, and feeling a hollow sense of achievement in the end.

Also, by your definition of hard work being pride-worthy, many gamers might meet that criteria, especially the professionals (?). Games can often be more competitive and demanding than anything I've experienced in real life. I've only teetered on the edge of competitive levels, so in a sense I wasted a lot of my time, since it all wasn't deliberate, but parts of it were definitely hard work, filled with passion.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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What percentage of income do you think young people should be saving? Because from what I see, this is the age of freely available personal finance advice, and more people seem to be following it at whichever age they stumble into stable income. Sure, there would be splurges here and there, but as far as I can tell, people are saving well. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/20/why-young-people-are-saving-... https://www.vo…

Its different for everyone but I'd say 10% minimum which is still more that the US average. This is a bit oversimplified but savings rate is the one factor to how long it takes to become financially independent. Most people will want to enjoy life a bit but a high paying thrifty SWE could theoretically save 80% of their income and retire (or be financially independent and work on whatever they want) in about 6 years.…

That’s roughly what I did, and I retired after 12 years.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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I like that. Thanks for sharing it. I'm 58. I spent over thirty years, writing and managing software projects that other people generally didn't use well (or mishandled while developing). It was frustrating, but they paid the bills, so there wasn't anything I could do about it. Since leaving my last job, I started to look at working, and immediately , and with extreme prejudice, slammed into the notorious ageism in t…

I won't say ageism the main reason I moved from programming to tech writing, but it's certainly been something on my mind. I look younger than my 53 years, but I'm pretty clearly not in my early 30s anymore. But, I haven't experienced any real ageism in this field, at least yet.

Thanks for your Service.

We desperately need a lot of skilled tech writers. The state of documentation, these days, fills me with despair.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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I know what you mean. I might feel that way a few days in a row every couple of months if I'm lucky and rarely ever more than 2 days in a row. It's a weird, full-body change for me. When I'm in that kind of zone it's like my pre-frontal cortex finally took over control from my lizard brain. Or maybe it's just hormones. I can do what I choose to do. To focus. To exercise and give 100%. Uncomfortable sensations like co…

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I've never observed the "feeling sick" issue myself in periods of greater productivity, but that could be because I wasn't paying attention - I have "evening sickness" like you described roughly 2-4 times a month, and I end up just popping some paracetamol and feeling fine the next day. My blood work comes out OK on checkups, so I (and my doctors) guess it's likely some mild allergy…

You mention irregular sleep as a factor here, did you ever try taking a nap every day to see if that helps?

The only time I've had this sort of hyper-productivity feeling, I was working out consistently in the mornings, and always napping around noon, maybe thereby giving a boost in energy levels for "the next stretch" of the day.

I also wish I could reproduce this sensation. For me, I think having clear overarching long term goals, that every routine action built towards helped a lot. Summoning the energy to get started is a lot easier if I have an obvious reason for doing it, and once I get started I usually felt great about it anyways.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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People are now terrified of putting down a screen and being left alone with their own thoughts for more than 30 seconds. It's horrifying what's bouncing around up in that dome, and having to process it. But this is exactly what we did before. We got bored , we were wasting time, we were experimenting, and that's how great ideas came around.

Idk if it's just terrified, but I think we're addicted. This probably sounds ridiculous but I recently blocked some apps and sites on my phone and actually felt a little off for a day, like my sleep was weird. I think there was a slight withdrawal from the constant bombardment of stuff. It is helping kill my Facebook habit. I don't even really like the site, I just check it impulsively. It's weird. Reddit is another…

You might enjoy the book Digital Minimalism by Cal Newport. It's helped me figure out how control the apps, instead of them controlling me.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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Wisdom is not a function of age. It's not a present you open on your birthday. You may get wiser as years go by, but that doesn't mean you get to be wiser than those around you. There are plenty of people who are wiser and more knowledgeable and insightful than those who were born earlier. There are also plenty of people that in spite of their age they attained very little wisdom to show for. The "ok boomer" meme ori…

There’s another word for elder “wisdom” - superstition. I question anything I’m told that doesn’t have proof attached, or singular experiences that are then extrapolated to cover an infinite future. This always comes up in the same places: - Piss poor processes - Refusal to apply updates - Unverifiable decisions that exist for years There’s a reason people say, “Ok boomer”.

There's good reasons alright. But as with everything humans adopt, it's also abused to oblivion in many situation where it doesn't even remotely apply.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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It's not just in tech. You hear responses from younger generations like "Ok Boomer" to their elders' opinions and it is so cringe-worthy. I don't think everything my parents taught me was perfect or even always correct but there's an irreplaceable amount of wisdom that comes from being alive twice as long.

The difference, these days, is social media. It acts as an accelerant to prejudice, recklessness, and disunity. Disrespecting elders is a time-honored aspect of nature. Even critters have it (watch puppies and kittens ignoring their parents). But puppies don't have a worldwide graph of other puppies that establish feedback loops to encourage each other to eat chocolate.

> Disrespecting elders is a time-honored aspect of nature. Even critters have it (watch puppies and kittens ignoring their parents).

Nonsense. Puppies and kittens are not adults, are they? The "ok boomer" meme originated in people from older demographics criticizing adults in their 20s and 30s based on blanket and entirely baseless assertions that somehow they knew better just because they were born earlier.

If you want to take metaphors out of nature, you can start off by learning how young lions expel older lions from their pride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW-_KC5wtXU

Its one thing to show respect to everyone around you, but its an entirely different thing to have members of that community systematically insult and aggravate younger members for absurd reasons and using ridiculous arguments, and still in return expect that that sort of antisocial and downright sociopath behavior should command reverence from the community, specially those who are directly attacked by streams of insults.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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No, see they are gonna be retired by 38. See, this line they drew extrapolating their stock and salary since starting work in 2012 will keep going up and up...

Given the market over the past 100 years, that seems like a fairly reasonable assumption?

It isn't going to go up every decade. Also Check markets in Japan and Europe which have been flat 30, 20 years.

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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I could offer an alternative perspective on this as I’ve seen it done to a lot of people that haven’t much choice in the matter. It’s entirely possible you’re not getting offers because they know you don’t need them. I don’t mean to say they’re wanting to give the offers to less fortunate applicants - it’s just that you’ll be impossible to abuse relative to someone who they know needs the money. “We need you to work…

That's a good point, and a relevant one.

Actually that happened to me too, it turns out there's such a thing as being TOO confident

I'm getting that vibe from you a little as well, where you're refusing to jump through the hoops that companies put in front of new hires (binary tree crap)

I'd recommend you either knuckle under and play ball, or even better: Get into consulting / make a SaaS business like the Expat Software guy

Re: I thought I would have accomplished a lot more today and also before I was 35

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For last few years, I have been telling myself to take it slow and do what you are doing now. I got a easy but a boring job. I figured this way I will save all my mental energy for my projects after work. But this is slowly burning me out. The boredom of not doing any real work for 8 hours is soul killing. I do a lot of busy red tape work but it is not intelluctly stimulating. So now I will do 180 and quit my job in…

How about being a security guard? There are some cozy, chill, nothing-ever-happens places where you can just sit there at night, maybe do a couple of walks but other than that you could work on your projects! This way you have a steady job that will also be beneficial for pension (adds to work years), and you can work on projects that will pay off later. Do not forget to bring your laptop!

> There are some cozy, chill, nothing-ever-happens places where you can just sit there at night, maybe do a couple of walks but other than that you could work on your projects!

Working night shift sucks and is bad for your mental and physical health and reduces life expectancy.

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