For anyone that have sore butt syndrome, here's my personal tip: improve blood circulation of your...butt! I bought Steelcase Think six month ago to replace my $50 chair, and while it is good chair with good price and comfy-but-firm seat cushion, it cannot solve my chronic "sore butt" problem. Half and hour in the chair and my butt soreness begin to appear. Doesn't help that I'm the type that sit in front of monitor…
The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design
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#142If anyone is looking for a better chair, we found this was a great time to pick up Herman Miller Aerons off of craigslist. There's a steady stream of small-to-medium offices in our area closing, and they're all liquidating office furniture. We picked up 2 for $500. They're a massive improvement over my $80 chair that was fine for a few hours a week pre-WFH, and my back is feeling much better.
This isn't exactly work related, but do people have opinions on the Herman Miller Eames chair? You know, this iconic look? [1] I ask because the lockdown has me fantasizing about distracting myself with replacement stuff for the home. But this chair is freakin $5000. Is it that good to be worth it? Or are any of those $1000 knockoffs acceptable quality? [1] https://www.hermanmiller.com/products/seating/lounge-seating…
But I need to have a table or some other surface nearby to place a drink and a notebook.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found my Aeron chair triggered my lower back pain. Since then I’ve moved to mostly using a standing mat and standing up as well as strengthening my core. I might try sitting on my Aeron chair after a few months of core strengthening
>lower back pain How low? I've had a terrible pain in my tailbone going on a few months now. I finally relented and got one of those donut shaped memory foam pillows. 40€ for a block of foam with a hole in it is criminal, but after using it for a week now, I must admit it does help a lot.
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#144The Ikea POANG recliner chair, you know the one, is the most comfortable chair I have ever used, you need to rearrange your desk setup because its so low and leaned back but once you have it destroys any other option out there, your back is just relaxed.
Re: The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design
#145If anyone is looking for a better chair, we found this was a great time to pick up Herman Miller Aerons off of craigslist. There's a steady stream of small-to-medium offices in our area closing, and they're all liquidating office furniture. We picked up 2 for $500. They're a massive improvement over my $80 chair that was fine for a few hours a week pre-WFH, and my back is feeling much better.
I have sat many hours in an Aeron (and am sitting in one right now), but am not sure why I don't hear more about the Herman Miller Sayl Chair. I find it vastly more comfortable.
I bought an Aeron a few years ago, but also considered the Sayl. I went to a Herman Miller dealer and tried all the chairs. A salesperson talked me through the different adjustments for each chair and explained why people preferred each of the chairs. When someone can sit in them side-by-side, they will pick the one that they like the most, which might be the Sayl. But many people only know the name Aeron.
Re: The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design
#146For anyone that have sore butt syndrome, here's my personal tip: improve blood circulation of your...butt! I bought Steelcase Think six month ago to replace my $50 chair, and while it is good chair with good price and comfy-but-firm seat cushion, it cannot solve my chronic "sore butt" problem. Half and hour in the chair and my butt soreness begin to appear. Doesn't help that I'm the type that sit in front of monitor…
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I do run 2 to 4 times a week so I do wonder if that helps avoid problems? I've done that for decades. I'd periodically suffer from debilitating back pain, where I couldn't even tie my shoes. I finally went to the doc, who said my problem was "weak back muscles". I pointed out the running, and the doc said "running does nothing for your back." He gave me an illustrated guide to back exercises, aka core strength exer…
I'm not a doctor, but running can definitely work out your back. Long trail runs with lots of elevation gain leave me with a sore lower back, mostly because "leaning into" the hill keeps my lower back muscles working to maintain posture. I've only experienced this when pushing lots of mileage on big hills, though differences in posture may result in different sorts of runs triggering this. My running buddy has compla…
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#148Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that seems to be happy to just sit on a dining chair when at my desk? When the WFH wave hit, people seemed to be going mad buying webcams and office chairs. Loads of people I work with spent a lot of energy researching and discussing chairs etc. I have a sit-stand desk and I stand for perhaps 2 to 3 hours any working day. But the rest of the time I just sit on a normal old woo…
> I do run 2 to 4 times a week so I do wonder if that helps avoid problems? I've done that for decades. I'd periodically suffer from debilitating back pain, where I couldn't even tie my shoes. I finally went to the doc, who said my problem was "weak back muscles". I pointed out the running, and the doc said "running does nothing for your back." He gave me an illustrated guide to back exercises, aka core strength exer…
Re: The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design
#149Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that seems to be happy to just sit on a dining chair when at my desk? When the WFH wave hit, people seemed to be going mad buying webcams and office chairs. Loads of people I work with spent a lot of energy researching and discussing chairs etc. I have a sit-stand desk and I stand for perhaps 2 to 3 hours any working day. But the rest of the time I just sit on a normal old woo…
I found youth will overcome a lot of bad ergonomic habits. You are doing well by standing. Keeping your core strong will help. The thing you have to ask yourself is - are you using willpower to overcome bad seating? If you have good ergonomics you will maintain good posture even when you're tired. The idea is to balance your body so it stays in place. Keep your head balanced, your arms relaxed without hunching your s…
As for ergonomic gadgets those never helped, simply trying to keep myself strain free - like instead of having split keyboards holding my hands in angle over the keyboard without bending my wrist -, relaxed, but trying also holding myself not flowing down of furniture. In some kind of balance.
Re: The tyranny of chairs: why we need better design
#150Just out of curiosity, am I the only one that seems to be happy to just sit on a dining chair when at my desk? When the WFH wave hit, people seemed to be going mad buying webcams and office chairs. Loads of people I work with spent a lot of energy researching and discussing chairs etc. I have a sit-stand desk and I stand for perhaps 2 to 3 hours any working day. But the rest of the time I just sit on a normal old woo…
I feel a major change in comfort and that I need to “offset” the discomfort prolonged hours in the dining chair gives through standing and exercising.
Basically, if I am more conscious about standing and exercising I too have no problems with the dining chair - but it does require more exercise than the office chair for the same level of comfort I feel by the end of the working day.
It sounds like your routine is already good enough to offset it.
Regardless of what I just said, I still have a nagging feeling about long term consequences.