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Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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Re: Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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> Google’s new offerings will test whether a lucrative but increasingly distrusted industry can boost its business by offering ethical pointers

Isn’t google a big part of why there is so much distrust to begin with? Seems like asking your oxy dealer for detox advice.

Re: Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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I made it two paragraphs before I remembered the preface of Google's code of conduct was stripped of the line "Don't be evil." It's now the last line, which to me reads as doing the ethical thing is an afterthought. The much more ambiguous "Do the right thing," is in Alphabet's corporate code.

We need the ethics of AI to be an offshoot of open source. It's tough to suggest that in an environment where enough people can pressure a group to adopt objectively unethical policies, but at the very least open source communities do not have the trigger of financial risk.

Google is going to need to make money from this "Ethics as a Service" eventually. And that is an obvious, all too obvious conflict of interest for what Google envisions.

Maybe they can do this. I'm not 100% objecting to the idea. But I'd like to suggest they start with YouTube. Ads on the platform have quadrupled since November 2019. Creators are playing a lottery with monetization every other upload, and they're making as little as 1-5% compared to YouTube's ad-share program 10 years ago. Start there.

Re: Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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> Google’s new offerings will test whether a lucrative but increasingly distrusted industry can boost its business by offering ethical pointers Isn’t google a big part of why there is so much distrust to begin with? Seems like asking your oxy dealer for detox advice.

Opiate dealers often stock narcan.

Re: Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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> Google’s new offerings will test whether a lucrative but increasingly distrusted industry can boost its business by offering ethical pointers Isn’t google a big part of why there is so much distrust to begin with? Seems like asking your oxy dealer for detox advice.

No they are the big scapegoat. Seriously it is a zeitgeisted Big Lie where they streneously insist it is a problem and make impossible ignorant standards while failing to provide evidence just fear mongered bullshit from the losers.

The actual problems with AI ethics are down to "it isn't ready for that morons" and "It would be obviously abusable even if it was jackass."

Re: Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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post #4

I made it two paragraphs before I remembered the preface of Google's code of conduct was stripped of the line "Don't be evil." It's now the last line, which to me reads as doing the ethical thing is an afterthought . The much more ambiguous "Do the right thing," is in Alphabet's corporate code. We need the ethics of AI to be an offshoot of open source. It's tough to suggest that in an environment where enough people…

As far as the ethics of AI goes, would "don't be evil" slogan be better than "do the right thing"?

I'm sure people may interpret things differently but doing the right thing would mean Google making AI that has a positive net impact on society, while "don't be evil" could simply mean good for Google but neutral to everyone else.

Re: Google offers to help others with the tricky ethics of AI

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> Google’s new offerings will test whether a lucrative but increasingly distrusted industry can boost its business by offering ethical pointers Isn’t google a big part of why there is so much distrust to begin with? Seems like asking your oxy dealer for detox advice.

Opiate dealers often stock narcan.

The difference is narcan keeps you a viable customer. Detox ends the relationship.

Same reason someone might render medical aid to a slave. Doesn't make it a charitable act.

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