The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
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The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
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Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#2Louis is remembering the wrong part of the PC vs Mac wars. Go back to Win2/3 vs Mac. The Mac looked much more like iOS then. Windows 3.11 is like Android now, and then Win95 is where it looks like Android is going. And then the 15 years after Win95 is what most people remember about Windows vs Mac.
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#3Louis is remembering the wrong part of the PC vs Mac wars. Go back to Win2/3 vs Mac. The Mac looked much more like iOS then. Windows 3.11 is like Android now, and then Win95 is where it looks like Android is going. And then the 15 years after Win95 is what most people remember about Windows vs Mac.
It was a long war and each of us remembers different parts. :) In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect?
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#4Louis is remembering the wrong part of the PC vs Mac wars. Go back to Win2/3 vs Mac. The Mac looked much more like iOS then. Windows 3.11 is like Android now, and then Win95 is where it looks like Android is going. And then the 15 years after Win95 is what most people remember about Windows vs Mac.
It was a long war and each of us remembers different parts. :) In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect?
In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect?
My disagreement is not with this, but rather the contention that this battle is different because Apple was not the developer choice in the past. When Windows was introduced the Mac was almost strictly better, including 3rd party SW support.
Over the course of almost 10 years Windows chipped away at that culminating with Win95. Where the tables were turned with better 3rd party support, better dev support, and was technologically better.
This 10 year span is very similar to the Apple v Google battles of today. Google is slowly chipping away at all of the iOS advantages. I wouldn't be surprised if in 5 years from now people honestly forgot for how long iOS was almost strictly superior to Android.
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was a long war and each of us remembers different parts. :) In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect?
In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect? My disagreement is not with this, but rather the contention that this battle is different because Apple was not the developer choice in the past. When Windows was introduced the Mac was almost strictly better, including 3rd party SW support. Over the course of almost 10 years Windows chipped away at t…
That's absolutely fair as well. In previous posts, I've argued the quality gap is decreasing, and I agree with your points.
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was a long war and each of us remembers different parts. :) In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect?
In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect? My disagreement is not with this, but rather the contention that this battle is different because Apple was not the developer choice in the past. When Windows was introduced the Mac was almost strictly better, including 3rd party SW support. Over the course of almost 10 years Windows chipped away at t…
how long iOS was almost strictly superior to Android.
Having had both a iPhone (3G) and an Android-phone (since 2.1) I have to ask in what ways you would argue this position, since IMO its seems strictly a matter of preference.
Right now I would actually say at least my opinion is the exact opposite. To me iOS seems utterly stagnant and my Android phone surpassed my iPhone in every way from the second I got it.
Not trying to provoke a flamewar or anything, just wondering if there is something I'm missing here and on what basis this argument is made.
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#7I like Apple's products and using Android devices makes me angry but I wouldn't find it all that bad if Android/iOS were like PC/Mac.
Not with an half dead Apple as the end result but if Apple's position in the smartphone market were equal to its position in the PC market I wouldn't have a problem with that. I care about Apple making great products, they don't need to be a dominant player in the smartphone market in order to do that.
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#8The biggest problem with articles such as these is that the author willfully ignores all of the other mobile platforms currently on the market (Windows Phone, Blackberry, WebOS (note: ignoring Nokia due the the expected retirement of their platforms in favor of WP7)). These platforms are much more compelling than any other OS was during the PC/Mac wars, and dramatically affect the overall market. Especially when you factor in the fact that all three of the platforms I mentioned are backed by companies which are willing to throw /billions/ of dollars into this space. To ignore them when discussing the difference between the desktop wars and mobile wars is ridiculous.
I was even more surprised when I searched for Part 1 of this article. Not only did I not find it, but I found this article instead: http://blog.louisgray.com/2011/02/windows-phone-7-is-best-wi... in which the author claims "I believe the Windows Phone 7 experience to be a serious challenger to both platforms in terms of quality, intuitive use and simplicity."
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#9The biggest problem with articles such as these is that the author willfully ignores all of the other mobile platforms currently on the market (Windows Phone, Blackberry, WebOS (note: ignoring Nokia due the the expected retirement of their platforms in favor of WP7)). These platforms are much more compelling than any other OS was during the PC/Mac wars, and dramatically affect the overall market. Especially when you…
Dave, this post was in response to many other articles that have framed iOS vs Android as the 2 dominant smartphone platforms and made a parallel comparison to the Mac/Windows discussions of old.
I do like Windows Phone 7 a lot. I think the UI is fantastic. I do not think that its current app situation is fantastic, and it is starting with a serious deficit versus competitors. I will not dismiss it at all, but think to discuss it in the frame of this article would be distracting.
I have previously discussed Blackberry as well, but think they have a lot of work to do to be compared vs Android and iOS right now.
Here's a post that had iOS vs Android vs BlackBerry from May of last year: http://blog.louisgray.com/2010/05/in-todays-world-of-mobile-... where I said those who are centered on email are still in a great place with Blackberry.
Re: The Android and iOS War Is Not Mac vs Windows Part 2
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
In what way does this dismiss the Mac's ability to get all the software you need even if the numbers are not perfect? My disagreement is not with this, but rather the contention that this battle is different because Apple was not the developer choice in the past. When Windows was introduced the Mac was almost strictly better, including 3rd party SW support. Over the course of almost 10 years Windows chipped away at t…
how long iOS was almost strictly superior to Android. Having had both a iPhone (3G) and an Android-phone (since 2.1) I have to ask in what ways you would argue this position, since IMO its seems strictly a matter of preference. Right now I would actually say at least my opinion is the exact opposite. To me iOS seems utterly stagnant and my Android phone surpassed my iPhone in every way from the second I got it. Not t…
If you have an iPhone 3G then your hardware is over two years old, and your iOS version, if updated, is still feature limited. Maybe that's why it feels so stagnant?