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Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Post by Thorrez »

hitekker wrote: post #25
satya71 wrote: post #16

I feel the text might have been better if they said "the business will receive 70%, Facebook doesn't take a cut"

As a donator, I’d be alarmed if a company tried to hide a 30% surcharge on my bill. Not specifying the line item is just plain sketchy.

It's not a surcharge on your bill. That's when you have to pay 30% more than the main price. This is you paying the main price, but the organization you (likely) want to support is only getting 30%.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Post by Thorrez »

rosstex wrote: post #33

FB: Apple blocked us from warning small businesses that 30% of their revenue on Facebook goes to Apple. Fuck Apple. Also FB: We're a multi-billion dollar company but we can't cover the 30% ourselves because fuck Apple. Also also FB: Apple warned users that Facebook tracks them which hurts advertisers because users think tracking is awful. Fuck Apple.

> FB: Apple blocked us from warning small businesses that 30% of their revenue on Facebook goes to Apple.

Was FB trying to warn small businesses? I read the article as FB trying to warning users making a purchase, not small businesses organizing an event.

> Also FB: We're a multi-billion dollar company but we can't cover the 30% ourselves because fuck Apple.

You think it's reasonable for FB to lose $.30 on every dollar that passes through? That's not a sustainable model.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Post by jijji »

hpen wrote: post #41

So what percent DO you guys think is fair?

The most expensive payment gateway I have ever seen is Paypal, which charges 2.9% of the sale. Apple is acting as payment gateway, yet they are charging over ten times what a payment gateway would charge

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Post by kartayyar »

Would you be okay with if a web based company, say Google:

1) Delisted you if you didn't support their payment option. 2) Blocked any content that tried to criticize it. 3) Forced you to support their login as an option, and also didn't place it as the first option on the list.

Then why are we okay with someone trying to do this for the mobile internet?

Apple treats apps like they own the phone. My own mental model is it's my phone, and apps are an extension of the mobile internet.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Post by eanzenberg »

Interesting how every big dog is attacking Apple as they continue to be the lone-wolf in enabling privacy and a secure platform for their users. Apple users are mostly computer illiterate because its Apple’s mission statement to enable computing for everyone. Because of their ease of use, they are now targeted to open up their platform in ways that will jeopardize both their increasing user-privacy and user-security.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Post by dwaite »

thothamon wrote: post #52
paxys wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can take whatever percent they want while also letting developers use alternate payment processors.

Or even better, allowing users to opt to install apps from other app stores.

Or even better, allowing people to buy other phones

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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shubhamjain wrote: post #18

So Apple wants a 30% cut on the money that could easily go to small business owners and artists. A $2T company that makes tens of billions in profit every year can't help being as extractive as it can in the middle of pandemic when everyone is struggling. How can anyone be okay with this blatant abuse of power? How does it matter if the event is online or offline. If it's happening on a Zoom call or in a coffee shop.…

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