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Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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So Apple wants a 30% cut on the money that could easily go to small business owners and artists. A $2T company that makes tens of billions in profit every year can't help being as extractive as it can in the middle of pandemic when everyone is struggling. How can anyone be okay with this blatant abuse of power? How does it matter if the event is online or offline. If it's happening on a Zoom call or in a coffee shop.…

Abuse of power? They have guidelines every developer must follow. Give one a break, what about the rest?

It's nothing but exploitive to keep online events in the same category as in-app purchases. There is a cost to conducting an event—offline or online. Secondly, Apple is well-aware that creators can't conduct offline events that easily because of the pandemic. Hiding behind "it's-rules" is just a trademark of an Evil Corp.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Abuse of power? They have guidelines every developer must follow. Give one a break, what about the rest?

Trump has guidelines. It doesn't make them fair or right. And I'm not trying to be political, just draw an analogy to counter your argument. A lot of people hold Apple in high esteem. Maybe because they like the company or the aesthetic. But think about all of the innovation and capital locked up in one place. It's bad for the world. Edit: why am I flagged for making a polite and well intentioned argument? Nothing de…

the question is, do YOU have guidelines?

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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FB, etc get the use of Apple's infrastructure, they get the benefits of apple providing updates to hardware for 5 years without charging consumers. That shit costs money, whether it costs 30% I don't know, but given that seems to be in the order of the charges of every other store (what % of sale price do companies get on retail sales?). The problem here is a bunch of companies have decided that they want special rul…

In-app payment processing is absolutely not worth a 30% fee. In a normal, competitive environment, Stripe and Paypal charge 3% + $0.30.

the vast majority of that 3% is the CC company rate, and that's not going to stripe.

Which means that stripe is making 30c + maybe some tiny additional amount per transaction.

Their hardware PoS devices cost money and/or rent, so they make a profit there.

The distribution cost for their app is covered by amazon.

Which means that their remaining per transaction cost is the cost of the payment details which is presumably in the order of 1kb, which I'm fairly sure is in the fraction of cents realm.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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So Apple wants a 30% cut on the money that could easily go to small business owners and artists. A $2T company that makes tens of billions in profit every year can't help being as extractive as it can in the middle of pandemic when everyone is struggling. How can anyone be okay with this blatant abuse of power? How does it matter if the event is online or offline. If it's happening on a Zoom call or in a coffee shop.…

Abuse of power? They have guidelines every developer must follow. Give one a break, what about the rest?

Change the guidelines? Defending a company with "they are following the rules they themselves have written" is so bizarrely common.

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Now that everyone has smart phones and phone lifetimes seem to be growing not shrinking (good job Apple) the only way for them to grow their revenue is raising the price of phones (which they've slowed down on) or "services" which are essentially milking everyone using their platform.

They’re not raising any prices on services that I’m aware of. Haven’t these policies and fees been in place for a long time?

Apple’s service revenue just reached an all-time high. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.statista.com/chart/amp/1462...

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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This is really why the law should come down like a ton of bricks on Apple. They aren't just bleeding everyone dry, they're also trying to prevent people from realizing Apple is doing it.

Sadly, they don't even know what's better for themselves any more.

Pushing the limits because really there are none

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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So Apple wants a 30% cut on the money that could easily go to small business owners and artists. A $2T company that makes tens of billions in profit every year can't help being as extractive as it can in the middle of pandemic when everyone is struggling. How can anyone be okay with this blatant abuse of power? How does it matter if the event is online or offline. If it's happening on a Zoom call or in a coffee shop.…

> that could easily go to small business owners and artists

What about the children?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

Re: Facebook says Apple blocked it from informing about App Store 30% fee

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Is this the end of Apple? Will I actually switch mobile platforms from Android because third party stores are now available? Tune in next time on "2020: The Year Monopolies get questioned"

As mobile gamer Android has been the only option for the longest time already. There's just too much geolocking as the strongest mobile games come from Asia. If someone is interested in exploring this more check out Qoo app store.
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